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Old 08-01-2013, 12:35 PM   #1
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This was just before the election five years ago when the candidates for president debated each other.
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Yesterday SonofV brightened my day with this unsolicited announcement, delivered with a touch of surprise (or perhaps that was me projecting...):

"Nobody in my class watched the debate last night!"

I must say I was proud of his pique. The night before we'd all watched the debate together, and he was hanging in there with us (Tink and me), listening to what they said, and generally copying our reactions. We all went for a walk after the program and I used the quiet time to ask him some questions about the debate. I can't remember the exact dialog, but he answered them all handily.

I asked him what the debate was all about, and he said they were trying to persuade people. What do you mean, persuade? You know, like if I asked you to loan me $50, and I said because I needed it that would be persuading. What people? The people in the audience and everybody in the country. I was astounded at this perceptive answer. How are they trying to persuade the people? (paraphrasing here, sorry) I'm going to be a good president, and the other guy is a poopyhead. Basically he understood that persuading can be effective as a pull and as a push.

I did have to check his enthusiasm when he answered one of my first questions "What did you think of McCain?" "He's a dick." : Ahh... no. He's not a dick, he wants the best for the country, but I don't agree with his choices or with his methods. SonofV shocked me with his, ahem, candor. I tried to get him back up out of the mud. I think there is no permanent damage.
Fast forward almost five years ---->

Mom(ofV) and SonofV filling out their ballots for the primary election, SonofV's first!
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SonofV diligently reading the voter's pamphlet, learning about the candidates for mayor. Though he liked the name of one candidate, "Goodspaceguy" (Yes, really.), he didn't like much else about him and voted for someone else.
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The three of us in a wobbly, poorly aimed selfie, but I'm as proud as I can be!
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Old 10-10-2008, 02:43 PM   #2
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Thank you, EVERYONE, for your feedback about my lil girl. I've pretty much come to the conclusion that simple CRYING when told no, is her way of saying, "BUT I WANT TO", whereas screaming at me and striking me (different from trying to push away from me to get to what she wants) is a bit more of the being defiant thing. The suggestions about consistency were very helpful; I'll keep that in mind. Right now the major thing we're working on is consistent bedtimes and not playing with electrical cords (no matter how well I think i have them put up out of the way, she still finds ways to pull them and grab them!) So yeah; every day's something new. Thanks again for all the input!
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Old 10-28-2008, 10:56 PM   #3
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I felt I was doing something right when my young 2 year old...

1) puts herself to bed on night 3 of being in her 'big-girl bed' without prompting...she just wandered off to her room and shut the door behind her

2) waits in line behind another little monkey after a worker at the local Meijer superstore read a book to kids on a Halloween event day ...just to MAKE SURE the girl heard her say 'thank you' for reading her the book.

Are 2 year olds supposed to do this stuff?!? Seriously, her birthday was on 10-4, she's just only 2. She creeps me out some days.
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Old 10-28-2008, 11:03 PM   #4
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Sounds like you have a lovely little girl on your hands there SquidGirl. Keep up the good parenting I say.
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Old 10-28-2008, 11:09 PM   #5
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She's a Libra - duh! We are naturally smart early. :0)
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Old 11-11-2008, 10:08 AM   #6
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Dad helped pull out the pup's tooth #2 last night. She only got $2 this time.
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Old 11-18-2008, 12:19 AM   #7
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I'm pretty much agreeing to that, Griff. I think I probably had my parents wrapped around my finger and I am very close to them. I can't remember them being too disciplinarian. My mom seemed more my friend than my mom but as I get older I realize she just had a different approach with parenting rather than your 'typical' parent. I also didn't really have kids to grow up with and hung out with my parents and their friends a lot. Vathana notices Miette gets super whiny around me sometimes and I think he recently realized it's not a bad thing. She just has a different comfort with me than everyone else. I'm the same way. I can be uncensored around V. I can be whiny around him :P
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Old 11-18-2008, 04:50 PM   #8
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I'd just written this long post for here and i lost it. What a dick. Anyway, Aden got in trouble at school the other day for 'man handling' another student who had killed a slug. He's written a statement for his teacher whom I have a meeting with this afternoon after school.

This is the statement:

As an advocate of animal rights I believe all animals should have a right to live, not die how we choose they should die. I love animals even the small types of animals like a slug or an insect. They don't have a voice so we should speak for them. We could have killed the slug then and there but we all decided we should let it go. It's horrible to kill a living creature...it's just like killing a human being only its smaller and it can’t speak for itself. I want to be a vet so I can help animals like that if they can be helped. When I see someone trying to kill something like a plover or its babies I get so angry and don’t think before I act.
Would you like it if you were an animal, with no way out, getting something thrown at you or wacked with a stick? I sure wouldn't. One time when I was in Samoa we found a puppy with maggots in it and it just made me cry and as soon as we could we put it out of its misery...That is one time you can kill a living creature, when it has no chance of survival.
I realize now that violence was not the best way of dealing with this situation, even though I was really upset. I don’t think it’s fair that Kodi and Caleb should get away with killing a living creature even if it was ‘just a slug’. I think it would be better for them if they learned how important all our animals are and why we should protect them instead of killing them.
I’m sorry if I harmed them. I know now that my actions made me just as bad as them and I am ashamed of losing my temper. I intend to work on this from now on and I’m going to do some research on how to peacefully get my message across in future using words and actions rather than my strength to overpower others.
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Old 11-19-2008, 08:30 PM   #9
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I'd just written this long post for here and i lost it. What a dick. Anyway, Aden got in trouble at school the other day for 'man handling' another student who had killed a slug. He's written a statement for his teacher whom I have a meeting with this afternoon after school.

This is the statement:

As an advocate of animal rights I believe all animals should have a right to live, not die how we choose they should die. I love animals even the small types of animals like a slug or an insect. They don't have a voice so we should speak for them. We could have killed the slug then and there but we all decided we should let it go. It's horrible to kill a living creature...it's just like killing a human being only its smaller and it can’t speak for itself. I want to be a vet so I can help animals like that if they can be helped. When I see someone trying to kill something like a plover or its babies I get so angry and don’t think before I act.
Would you like it if you were an animal, with no way out, getting something thrown at you or wacked with a stick? I sure wouldn't. One time when I was in Samoa we found a puppy with maggots in it and it just made me cry and as soon as we could we put it out of its misery...That is one time you can kill a living creature, when it has no chance of survival.
I realize now that violence was not the best way of dealing with this situation, even though I was really upset. I don’t think it’s fair that Kodi and Caleb should get away with killing a living creature even if it was ‘just a slug’. I think it would be better for them if they learned how important all our animals are and why we should protect them instead of killing them.
I’m sorry if I harmed them. I know now that my actions made me just as bad as them and I am ashamed of losing my temper. I intend to work on this from now on and I’m going to do some research on how to peacefully get my message across in future using words and actions rather than my strength to overpower others.


When my middle daughter was 7, I accidentally ran over a snail with her sister's stroller. We were on the way to school, and in a hurry, She was VERY upset, told me I had murdered the snail. I said nope, an accident, so only snailslaughter.
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Old 11-20-2008, 10:37 PM   #10
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I'd just written this long post for here and i lost it. What a dick. Anyway, Aden got in trouble at school the other day for 'man handling' another student who had killed a slug. He's written a statement for his teacher whom I have a meeting with this afternoon after school.

This is the statement:

As an advocate of animal rights I believe all animals should have a right to live, not die how we choose they should die. I love animals even the small types of animals like a slug or an insect. They don't have a voice so we should speak for them. We could have killed the slug then and there but we all decided we should let it go. It's horrible to kill a living creature...it's just like killing a human being only its smaller and it can’t speak for itself. I want to be a vet so I can help animals like that if they can be helped. When I see someone trying to kill something like a plover or its babies I get so angry and don’t think before I act.
Would you like it if you were an animal, with no way out, getting something thrown at you or wacked with a stick? I sure wouldn't. One time when I was in Samoa we found a puppy with maggots in it and it just made me cry and as soon as we could we put it out of its misery...That is one time you can kill a living creature, when it has no chance of survival.
I realize now that violence was not the best way of dealing with this situation, even though I was really upset. I don’t think it’s fair that Kodi and Caleb should get away with killing a living creature even if it was ‘just a slug’. I think it would be better for them if they learned how important all our animals are and why we should protect them instead of killing them.
I’m sorry if I harmed them. I know now that my actions made me just as bad as them and I am ashamed of losing my temper. I intend to work on this from now on and I’m going to do some research on how to peacefully get my message across in future using words and actions rather than my strength to overpower others.
Y'see I think this is great, but not because it shows what a nice, compassionate individual he is, but more because he's got the whole excuse/sob-story/get-out-of-jail-free thing pegged.
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Old 11-18-2008, 10:57 PM   #11
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Awww....and it was all over a slug...how cute. How old is Aden?
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Old 11-18-2008, 11:06 PM   #12
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Absolutely charming. Give him a hug for me, willya?

He'd get along great with my daughter, who has a hizzy if someone should smash a spider or something. All bugs in the house must be carefully transported back outdoors.
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Old 11-19-2008, 01:25 AM   #13
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He's 12. Starting high school next year, so not a baby anymore, but still my baby...specially when he does things like that.

Juni...i think there's quite a lot of kids that're developing a conscience much younger than we might have. It gives me hope for the future.
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Old 11-19-2008, 08:14 AM   #14
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Hey, both 12 years old - too bad so far apart! Pen pals?
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Old 11-19-2008, 09:02 AM   #15
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Hey, both 12 years old - too bad so far apart! Pen pals?
lol - they may text each other or email, but pen pals? Didn't that die back when I was young - a looooong time ago.
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