Rumors and Truth

[glatt]

Originally Posted by classicman

I was not ragging on you Bullitt - that was more directed at the likes of ACORN and its endless subsidiaries and whatnot. Pulling people off the street and outta shelters to vote.

People living on the street or in shelters will most likely be served better under Obama than under McCain. Why shouldn't they vote for the candidate who serves their interest more? Seriously, why do you have a problem with them voting? Do you have to be rich to vote? wtf?

[classicman]

No, monetary worth should have no bearing on ones desire or ability to vote. Its all part of being an American. I just prefer that those who actually want to and are motivated enough to vote do so instead of those who are pulled out of a trash can or whatever by some group whether it be R's or D's.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by classicman

No, monetary worth should have no bearing on ones desire or ability to vote. Its all part of being an American. I just prefer that those who actually want to and are motivated enough to vote do so instead of those who are pulled out of a trash can or whatever by some group whether it be R's or D's.

Given that a lot of these people have mental illnesses you have to wonder if they are promising them a hot meal for a vote for Obama. How could you be sure they are not doing something like that? It would be totally illegal to buy the vote. Do you think they may be telling them to vote for McCain?

[bluecuracao]

Originally Posted by classicman

No, monetary worth should have no bearing on ones desire or ability to vote. Its all part of being an American. I just prefer that those who actually want to and are motivated enough to vote do so instead of those who are pulled out of a trash can or whatever by some group whether it be R's or D's.

Pulled out of a trash can? Are you serious?

People who live on the street and in shelters have just as much right to vote as anyone else. Not every homeless person is mentally ill, and even then, there are varying degrees. Seriously, there are not a bunch of completely mentally incapacitated people living in "trash cans."

[classicman]

Originally Posted by classicman

I find this a very different set of circumstances - everyone knows what this school and Falwell are about. I cannot really see the comparison between this and picking people out of homeless shelters and off the streets.

Originally Posted by classicman

Monetary worth should have no bearing on ones desire or ability to vote. Its all part of being an American. I just prefer that those who actually want to and are motivated enough to vote do so instead of those who are pulled out of a trash can or whatever by some group whether it be R's or D's.

Where am I unclear? In the first I disagreed that the two scenarios you put forth were comparable. In my latter post I simply reaffirmed my earlier position.

[classicman]

I think both sides do this shit. I don't think either one should. Thats my point and I'm sticking to it.

[glatt]

Originally Posted by classicman

I think both sides do this shit. I don't think either one should. Thats my point and I'm sticking to it.

So you are changing your position from post #87 of this thread where you saw no problem with the Republicans doing it, and only complained when the Democrats did it?

[lookout123]

can we seriously get this election over with so the cellar can return to normal?

[Shawnee123]

Because the election has brought out people's observational skills?

[glatt]

Lookout, I was going to jokingly say "Fuck you and the horse you rode in on!" but I can't bring myself to do it.

[lookout123]

no S123, because election years in the cellar get annoying because otherwise reasonable people become so ridiculously caught up in the partisan spin that their ability to approach the issues in a logical, nonbiased manner becomes increasingly stunted up until about 7 PM on election night at which point one side starts the "yippee!" taunts while the other side starts checking real estate and job leads in other countries because the sky is falling.

It's like clockwork.

[classicman]

Originally Posted by glatt

So you are changing your position from post #87 of this thread where you saw no problem with the Republicans doing it, and only complained when the Democrats did it?

No.

[glatt]

Originally Posted by classicman

No.

You aren't being very clear.

Do you think it's fine for Republicans, like those at Liberty University, to sign up more Republicans to vote?

[Shawnee123]

I know, but glatt did have a good point. Just sayin'

Besides, I know I'm never reasonable, and this is just one more venue for my unreasonableness.

All kidding aside (is that an allowed colloquialism?) I agree with you: I can't wait for the election to be over either. I see myself getting caught up in it, angry, argumentative, a real brat sometimes.

On one foot I love to see people get fired up over something so important. On the other foot I hate to see the feelings it causes. Some of us are just so passionate about it. That is good, and bad.

[lookout123]

I love when people get fired up. Unfortunately we have passed the point in US history where US citizens will get fired up about the problem (the politicians) because they are too busy getting fired up over the symptoms (the hot buttons politicians push to gain power).

Obama's a douche who will not better your life in any meaningful way. If elected and alive he will stand before you in less than four years telling you to re-elect him so he can solve all our problems.

McCain's a douche who will not better your life in any meaningful way. If elected and alive he will stand before you in less than four years telling you to re-elect him so he can solve all our problems.

I'm not a big Palin fan, but I will say this - at least she hasn't made a career in the beltway. I would like the D's to find people like that. I would like the R's to find people like that. I would like to see the government of this country be comprised of individuals who actually do know what life is like in the world that you and I live in.

I'm not holding my breath.


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In my fantasy world Tom Clancy's scenario for a plane crashing in DC and taking out the president, most of congress, most of the senate, most of the supreme court is a possibility. Real people gain the opportunity to take up the empty seats and work towards the good of the nation rather than the good of the lobbyists. like I said, it's my fantasy world.