Misc Biker Pics

[beauregaardhooligan]

Originally Posted by BrianR

Some people labor under the misapprehension that loud pipes save lives. All they ever do is cause noise ordinances.

Your statements are un-supported.

[HungLikeJesus]

Originally Posted by beauregaardhooligan

Your statements are un-supported.

I support them.

[beauregaardhooligan]

Why?
They put sirens on firetrucks so you can hear them as well as see them.
I'm not saying they should all lose their mufflers, but you'd certainly notice them more and that'd help keep them from getting run over.

[HungLikeJesus]

One of my motorcycles is a little bit loud, but really loud motorcycles annoy me. Denver has been threatening to enforce their noise ordinance, but I haven't noticed any change.

[Shawnee123]

Or, your supports are under-stated?

[HungLikeJesus]

Mufflers generally point backward, so, by the time you hear the motorcycle, it's already going past.

As a motorcycle rider, I don't like loud pipes because it gives non-riders a bad image of riders, and more reason to make rules against them.

Some neighborhoods, condo associations and other municipalities have banned motorcycles, primarily due to noise issues.

I did a search and here are some of the hits that came up:
http://www.canyonlakemotorcycleclub.com/
http://www.noisefree.org/motorcycles/loudpipes.html
http://www.mrf.org/articles/1998/chicago.html
http://www.twtex.com/forums/showthread.php?t=606
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...55C0A960958260

Here is a quote from the first link:

WHY ARE MOTORCYCLES PROHIBITED IN OUR COMMUNITY?

The three reasons for the ban is noise, noise, and noise.

...The irritating noise that most residents associate with motorcycles being loud occurs when an illegal after-market exhaust pipe that exceeds state law has been installed. Harley-Davidson motorcycles with legal exhaust pipes are not loud. Patrol officers used them within Canyon Lake to enforce school bus violations and there were no complaints about their noise (only their presence). The noise issue would also be easy to enforce--cycles that exceed state standards would not be able to operate within the community.

A noise study showed that a single loud motorcycle traveling through Paris in the middle of the night would be heard by 200,000 people. That's a lot of people to irritate just so you can have loud pipes.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by HungLikeJesus

Mufflers generally point backward, so, by the time you hear the motorcycle, it's already going past.

As a motorcycle rider, I don't like loud pipes because it gives non-riders a bad image of riders, and more reason to make rules against them.

Some neighborhoods, condo associations and other municipalities have banned motorcycles, primarily due to noise issues.

I did a search and here are some of the hits that came up:
http://www.canyonlakemotorcycleclub.com/
http://www.noisefree.org/motorcycles/loudpipes.html
http://www.mrf.org/articles/1998/chicago.html
http://www.twtex.com/forums/showthread.php?t=606
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...55C0A960958260

Here is a quote from the first link:


A noise study showed that a single loud motorcycle traveling through Paris in the middle of the night would be heard by 200,000 people. That's a lot of people to irritate just so you can have loud pipes.

WHAT HE SAID.

Loud pipes may be good for attracting attention from the car next to you if you are driving at an identical speed, but they have to be really loud and then that invokes the "just pisses people off and makes them hate bikes more principle", so it sort of negates the effect.

[Flint]

The whistles go whoooooo!!!

[lushchocolateswirl]

That whistle thingy is illegal here.

How is it not illegal there?

[beauregaardhooligan]

I think the topic isn't about trying to showing off, rather it's about being safe.
You can certainly hear any bike with straight pipes well before it comes into view, unless you just happen to be looking that way.
BrianR's statement that "all they do is cause noise ordinances." ignores this fact.
Noise for the sake of noise is surely dumb, but noise for the sake of safety is a proven fact.
One of my pet peeves is bikers that sit at the light and constantly goose the throttle, as if their motor was going to stall. But that doesn't change the fact that loud pipes will let you know there is a bike around, and that *can* save a life.

[jinx]

Originally Posted by beauregaardhooligan

and that *can* save a life.

Probably doesn't though, and they're annoying as fuck all to people that live in popular biking areas.

[monster]

Originally Posted by beauregaardhooligan

But that doesn't change the fact that loud pipes will let you know there is a bike around, and that *can* save a life.

Not if every potentially dangerous item on the road made a loud noise. people would either go deaf or wear ear defenders. No added safety. also, loud bikes (and other vehicles) can prevent blind pedetrians hearing the pedestrain crossing signals.

Perhaps, though, we could kill two birds with one stone, so to speak, by forcing people with dangerous driving points on their licenses to have these noisemakers attached/mufflers removed. So (a) we can hear the idiots coming, and (b) the noise might lose it's fashion appeal for those who are actually good drivers. I certainly find that operating under the assumption that if i can hear a car a mile away, it is likely to be being badly driven works for me.

[LabRat]

Bwa hahaha!!!

I love how bub rub and lil sis about get into an accident driving away to show off their new 'pipes'... Oy.

[richlevy]

Originally Posted by LabRat

Bwa hahaha!!!

I love how bub rub and lil sis about get into an accident driving away to show off their new 'pipes'... Oy.

Well, the cops have them on tape running a stop sign. The next woooo woooo he hears might be a police siren.

[Flint]

Originally Posted by richlevy

The next woooo woooo he hears might be a police siren.

The beauty of it is, he won't be able to hear the police siren.