Cure found for cancer?

Originally Posted by Aliantha

Well, as I stated earlier in this thread, I don't subscribe to any of these alternative so called 'cures' for cancer. One thing I would add though is that if more traditional methods are tried and then fail, then what is the harm in trying an alternative therapy? If the doctors tell you you're about to croak anyway, surely you can't do any more harm.

Again, I'd also note that I think it's fair enough for people to disagree on the subject, but if someone believes in a therapy and for whatever reason, it appears to be working for them, I don't think there is anything to be gained by belittling that person.

There is no harm in that, the harm is in telling others that it is a cure and having them ignore methods that work.
As for your statement about feelings vs facts... one has nothing to do with the other.
If someone posts something as a fact and it is disputed and shown to be wrong, feelings don't enter into it & it is not an attack, it is information, pure and simple.
I have several things wrong with me & am constantly barraged with well intentioned people who actually tell me to stop my meds and just get acupuncture or drink grapefruit juice or some similar insanity... it is harmful to spread such crap to those who may take them seriously just to feel empowered. That is all it is.

[annoyedsas]

I think it is very sad that you have all brought this subject to such a low, cockfight of a discussion. If someone has anything positive to say about alternative therapies, I will keep an eye out. Meanwhile, UT, Pie, Brianna, xoxoxoBruce, rkzenrage, Aliantha (sorry to tag you in, but you too have some negativity), Happy Monkey - I truely pray none of you get what I have - cancer - and am fiercly fighting and winning I might add.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Good for you. I hope you continue to beat it and eventually winning....my Mom did.
I heard recently, something like 1.4 million Americans are diagnosed with cancer every year and 0.5 million of them will lose that battle, but that means nearly 2 out of 3 beat it.

For the last three years I've worked in a department with about 30 people and fully half of them have cancer. That's because the employees that come down with serious illnesses are moved to that department.

I've shared their ups and downs, triumphs and defeats, and listened to their stories, many of which are searches for information.

I've seen the sparkle in their eyes when they find some new treatment and seen the sparkle fade when they talk to others that have researched and in many cases tried these treatments. They are disappointed but they want the truth above all else.

Originally Posted by annoyedsas

I think it is very sad that you have all brought this subject to such a low, cockfight of a discussion. If someone has anything positive to say about alternative therapies, I will keep an eye out. Meanwhile, UT, Pie, Brianna, xoxoxoBruce, rkzenrage, Aliantha (sorry to tag you in, but you too have some negativity), Happy Monkey - I truely pray none of you get what I have - cancer - and am fiercly fighting and winning I might add.

You have no idea what my situation is and why I feel the way I do. Speak of what you know.

[annoyedsas]

Originally posted by rkzenrage

You have no idea what my situation is and why I feel the way I do. Speak of what you know.

Then why don't you tell us your woes instead of having a go at everyone elses? Someone might be able to help you!

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by annoyedsas

I think it is very sad that you have all brought this subject to such a low, cockfight of a discussion.
...
, Aliantha (sorry to tag you in, but you too have some negativity),

Heh. To stay out of the "low, cockfight" list, you can't have expressed any doubt in the powers of apricot pits.

The funny thing is that not too long ago this EXACT conversation would have been had over ozinated water, then before that something else.
The one thing that is always missing is the huge groundswell of people who have actually been cured by this, and just this cure writing papers and making documentaries and telling everyone they know that they took a vitamin, shark cartilage, apricot pits or visited the salt springs of the Canadian back woods that it cured them completely and they no longer need doctors... that always seems to be missing. I ask them.. "are you cured or in remission" then the heming and hawing starts... but I never hear it...
Until I hear that... I will keep going to them who have been curing more than the pits and pots.

[Aliantha]

That's true HM. Again, I'm not refuting anyone's opinion on this matter. I'm questioning the way the poster was questioned and I'd even go so far as to say attacked because of his/her thoughts or feelings on the subject.

Anyway, I don't really think there's any point in posting anymore on this thread.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Not the poster being attacked, the dissemination of questionable information.
Right now this thread has less than a hundred posts and almost 1500 views.
People are reading and maybe believing bad information if we don't question it.
I'm sure there are people with cancer, and their loved ones, scouring the web for any glimmer of hope there might be a magic cure, they just haven't found yet. The web is full of bad information, we shouldn't add any more.

[Aliantha]

annoyedsas...As I posted earlier, I think most of the winning of the battle against so many illnesses is because of the patients strong will and positive mental outlook. So I also believe that if someone doesn't believe something will work, chances are it wont, but if they do believe it will work, then they've already won half the battle.

My point is, I believe it's the mind that does the healing, no matter what medications you take; traditional or alternative.

So, in your defense here, I have tried to suggest that the negativity displayed by some posters could have been harmful to your recovery because you might start to doubt why you're getting better.

Of course, in their defense, they have a right to say what they like, so I suppose the lesson to be learned here is, find what's working for you and then just do it. Some treatments aren't acceptable to many people for many reasons, but if what you're doing works for you, then just go ahead and have the last laugh.

That's what I think.

The reason you may sense negativity from me is because my mother was ripped off by a quack. I'm sure if she'd survived cancer I'd be shouting the benefits of B17 from the rooftops. She tried traditional methods first and had no result, so she turned to alternatives because the doctors only had palliative medications to offer her. I guess her number was up no matter what. I don't believe there's a 'cure' for cancer either way. I believe there are only treatments, some of which work and some of which don't.

The way the human race lives is cancerous. It's no wonder we're all getting it.

[Pie]

Coral calcuim, Rife machines... Snakeoil.

The worst thing is... always, always, no matter what, no matter how many times, at some point, there is this tiny whisper in the back of my head "may be".
It pisses me off so damn bad... it is sick to do that to people who need hope, who want to be well so bad they will listen to your crap, it is a crime.
Those who do it just do it to feel power over others.
Unless there is definitive proof, absolute proof, you take it/do it and are cured, really cured, shut-up.

[annoyedsas]

Originally posted by rkzenrage

Looked under the health header lately?

There are 25 postings by you in the past three hours on various subjects. As much as I'd love to, I don't seem to have as much time on my hands as you do so I can't read all of them.

Guess I'll never know.

Originally posted by rkzenrage

... that always seems to be missing. I ask them.. "are you cured or in remission" then the heming and hawing starts... but I never hear it...

I don't expect to ever hear those words actually, maybe in 35 years time. As long as I am healthy and happy and doing all the things I want to do, that's ok with me. I'm watching my children grow up and I am LIVING. Sure, everyday I wake up and think, ok another day of supplements and regimens. No I can't eat this or that, but hell, I woke up. Life is a gift.