FOUR MORE YEARS

[glatt]

Dude, YOU have no tactical sense. How many oceans are there? How many ships do we have? How many ships per ocean?

I assure you, we don't have just one ship.

Don't make me find that chart that's been floating all over the web of our navy's size compared to the navies of all the countries of the rest of the world.

[BigV]

Originally Posted by Adak

snip--

I'm sure you could name, five (just five) specific plans that Obama will be implementing in this next term, surely?

Ok.

OBAMA: I'm asking you to rally not around me, but rally around a set of goals for our country in manufacturing and education and energy, national security, reducing the deficit.

First, export more products and outsource fewer jobs.

Second, control more of our own energy.

Third, give more Americans the chance to get the skills that they need to compete.

Fourth, reduce the deficit without sticking it to the middle class.

Fifth, strong national security, smart foreign policy.

Originally Posted by Adak

Perhaps because Obama NEVER NAMED five specific plans for his second term, throughout his campaign.

You're wrong again. These were presented at the Democratic National Convention. Perhaps you didn't pay attention. They're all over his website too.

[infinite monkey]

In all fairness i started it.

I'm no debator. I'm just a mouthy girl who got too excited about the election.

Sorry.

[BigV]

fine, fine. but to be fair, I didn't see you misquote Adak or henry. I didn't see you just make shit up, like I have seen from Adak many times. I'm putting him on notice that unless he acts seriously in serious discussions, I'm going to treat his input as unfunny comic relief.

His demonstrated willingness to use dramatic hyperbole as fact, and not just breaking news items, subjects that are verifiable, or should be verifiable in a journalistic sense. For me, he has to show his work or be disregarded.

[Adak]

I see today, that the DOW industrial average celebrated Obama's victory, by losing 314 points!

The "Obama Effect" is already in full swing! Pardon me while I dance on my ceiling.

BTW German projections for their economy is a very tepid 0.8% growth for 2013 -- but Socialism is what Obama is directing us toward -- whoopee!

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-1...isers-say.html

[Sheldonrs]

Originally Posted by Adak

I see today, that the DOW industrial average celebrated Obama's victory, by losing 314 points!

The "Obama Effect" is already in full swing! Pardon me while I dance on my ceiling.

BTW German projections for their economy is a very tepid 0.5% growth -- but Socialism is what Obama is directing us toward -- whoopee!

I hear they are expecting snow in the northeast. Must be the Obama effect.

[Lamplighter]

Originally Posted by Adak

I see today, that the DOW industrial average celebrated Obama's victory, by losing 314 points!

The "Obama Effect" is already in full swing! Pardon me while I dance on my ceiling.
<snip>

How to win friends and influence people...

Adek's (and his ilk) reveal their true nature in remarks like this.

[Adak]

Originally Posted by Lamplighter

How to win friends and influence people...

Adek's (and his ilk) reveal their true nature in remarks like this.

If the friends I win, want to drive me into a car accident, I would be wise to win other friends, safer driving, friends.

Originally Posted by Stormieweather

Obama can work just as well with Congress and House as Romney could have if he'd been elected. It all depends on whether the OTHER participants wish to work towards a solution instead of behave like a spoiled toddlers.

So the Senators and Representatives should all fall in step with Obama, even though he's now brought us up to a stunning 16 Trillion dollars of debt, and lead us into an incredibly slow recovery ?

The idea that they should do what's right for the country, shouldn't be an issue?

[SamIam]

Originally Posted by Adak

If the friends I win, want to drive me into a car accident, I would be wise to win other friends, safer driving, friends.
~snip~
So the Senators and Representatives should all fall in step with Obama, even though he's now brought us up to a stunning 16 Trillion dollars of debt, and lead us into an incredibly slow recovery ?

The idea that they should do what's right for the country, shouldn't be an issue?

Heck, I wouldn't mind an opponent who just knew where he'd been and which way he was going. You and many others on the far right want to over simplify the problem and avoid admitting to any Republican responsibility for the current fiscal mess. It's so much more satisfying to just turn the president into the boogie man (he IS black, after all).

Say, remember that dufus we had for a president at the time of 9/11? Remember how we had a budget surplus when he came into office? Do you recall how he pushed a bunch of tax cuts through Congress while at the same time embroiling this country in an extremely expensive war without a single qualm about how much the bill would be and how it would be paid when it came due?

Ah, just put it on the credit card. The financial world is partying so hard, they'll probably not even pay any attention to it and when the day of reckoning finally does arrive, the responsible parties will have slithered away under some rock just like the reptiles they really are.

I guess since it was a Republican administration that pulled off this nasty little trick, they were doing "what was right for the country" even if it didn't look that way either then or now.

Jeez, give it a break already.

[Adak]

Originally Posted by SamIam

Heck, I wouldn't mind an opponent who just knew where he'd been and which way he was going. You and many others on the far right want to over simplify the problem and avoid admitting to any Republican responsibility for the current fiscal mess. It's so much more satisfying to just turn the president into the boogie man (he IS black, after all).

I don't blame Obama for the fiscal mess we were in when he was sworn in -- not at all.

What I do blame him for, is his fiscal actions and policies, since he became President.

Say, remember that dufus we had for a president at the time of 9/11? Remember how we had a budget surplus when he came into office? Do you recall how he pushed a bunch of tax cuts through Congress while at the same time embroiling this country in an extremely expensive war without a single qualm about how much the bill would be and how it would be paid when it came due?

I'm well aware of Bush's policies - he was a social conservative, but a fiscal big spender. More importantly, had he recognized the impending crisis earlier, he could have helped us avoid more of it.

I guess since it was a Republican administration that pulled off this nasty little trick, they were doing "what was right for the country" even if it didn't look that way either then or now.

Let's not forget our mistakes, let's learn from them. Bush was a big spender, and it was a mistake. Obama is a bigger spender, and it's a mistake.

Let's stop the big spending, already - there are a number of fiscal calamities that await us, if we don't use common sense, and STOP the massive over-spending!

[BigV]

Originally Posted by Adak

I see today, that the DOW industrial average celebrated Obama's victory, by losing 314 points!

The "Obama Effect" is already in full swing! Pardon me while I dance on my ceiling.

--snip

So, you're saying that Obama's responsible for what happens on the DOW Jones Industrial Average? Ok.

Two months into Barack Obama’s tenure, the index reached its low point, slumping to 6,547 in March 2009.



But then something interesting happened: Just a few weeks after Obama signed his stimulus package, the Dow began to rise. Sure, it was herky-jerky, but under our supposedly socialistic president, we’ve seen the Dow go up around 5,000 points from the beginning of his term.

And another 1,500 points on top of that since the publication of this article.

I got your "Obama effect" hangin' right here, punk.

[Adak]

Originally Posted by BigV

So, you're saying that Obama's responsible for what happens on the DOW Jones Industrial Average? Ok.

And another 1,500 points on top of that since the publication of this article.

I got your "Obama effect" hangin' right here, punk.

I'm saying Obama's re-election was widely seen by investors, as a probable return to poor fiscal and business policies.

We had a business genius running for President, but we elected a guy who never ran a lemonade stand.

Maybe Obama has learned from his earlier mistakes - maybe Congress will force him into better compromises in his second term.

We'll see.

[Rhianne]

Will it go up again?

[Happy Monkey]

Good day to buy stock.

[Trilby]

Aliens did it.