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Old 05-14-2011, 03:43 AM   #1
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I think anyone who is absolutely positive of their belief in the unknowable is a little presumptuous.
I am absolutely positive that there are no unicorns. Does that make me a little presumptuous?
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Old 05-14-2011, 10:05 AM   #2
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I am absolutely positive that there are no unicorns. Does that make me a little presumptuous?
There may be none NOW, but that doesn't mean they were never in existence. History suggests that there were creatures or aberrations that were similar to the legendary unicorn, giving rise to their tale.

Why does it seem unbelievable that there was once a goat-type animal with one horn? Particularly since it was mentioned in natural history writings repeatedly?

Now Pegasus defies physics and biology, so I'd agree that it is probably purely legend. But again, I believe anything is possible. Our (human) limited sphere of knowledge is no where close to ALL of what there is to see and know.
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Old 05-14-2011, 10:09 AM   #3
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There may be none NOW, but that doesn't mean they were never in existence. History suggests that there were creatures or aberrations that were similar to the legendary unicorn, giving rise to their tale.

Why does it seem unbelievable that there was once a goat-type animal with one horn? Particularly since it was mentioned in natural history writings repeatedly?

Now Pegasus defies physics and biology, so I'd agree that it is probably purely legend. But again, I believe anything is possible. Our (human) limited sphere of knowledge is no where close to ALL of what there is to see and know.

yes but that's a whole different thing. I didn't say i believed there was never a creature with the kinds of physical features that could have given rise to the myth of unicorns. I said I believe there are no unicorns. Never have been any. Might have been creatures that looked a little like what became the myth of unicorns, but magical horned horses with a penchant for virgin maids? i don't think so.

And as for 'anything is possible' No. Not so. Some things aren't possible.
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Old 05-13-2011, 02:38 PM   #4
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or....
you better hope he doesn't see this till after the rapture.
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Old 05-13-2011, 02:40 PM   #5
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Like GAWD couldn't google for rapture knockers and atheists.
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Old 05-13-2011, 02:44 PM   #6
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God is like most people over 70 - they are still using aol and dial-up.
It'll take about that long just for them to get online, let alone use that devil program google.
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Old 05-13-2011, 04:14 PM   #7
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God is like most people over 70 - they are still using aol and dial-up.
It'll take about that long just for them to get online, let alone use that devil program google.
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Old 05-13-2011, 02:49 PM   #8
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I'm prepared for the raptor.
I even changed my sig

As of 22 May, it goes back to my previous countdown - my birthday, Torchwood and pantomime. MY holy trinity.
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Old 05-13-2011, 08:48 PM   #9
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I'm prepared for the raptor.
I even changed my sig

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Old 05-13-2011, 03:11 PM   #10
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I don't believe in atheism.

I don't believe in God either but I'm willing to consider any evidence and I'll certainly accept proof. I'm not sure (most) religious folk are ready to do the same the other way though.
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Old 05-16-2011, 02:05 PM   #11
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I don't believe in atheism.

I don't believe in God either
Then you're an atheist. That's the only requirement. Atheism is a lack of belief, not a belief. Individual atheists can have beliefs in various (non-diety) things, and about dieties (like them not existing), but all that is required to be an atheist is to not believe in a diety.

There are beliefs that you have to be an atheist to hold, but there are no beliefs that you have to hold to be an atheist.
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Old 05-16-2011, 02:17 PM   #12
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There are beliefs that you have to be an atheist to hold, but there are no beliefs that you have to hold to be an atheist.
I don't believe ... you, I believe.
wait... what?
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Old 05-16-2011, 02:28 PM   #13
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I believe...


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Old 05-13-2011, 04:59 PM   #14
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I think that that god only reads Aramaic.
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Old 05-13-2011, 05:47 PM   #15
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There's no personal god. If there was, he'd be the devil for allowing stuff like the holocaust, wars in general, and little innocent kids getting cancer, etc.etc.etc., ad nauseum.

On the other hand, I have difficulty with the thought that the universe is just "here." Something must have set the whole thing going. I can imagine god being just like a little kid who just set off a pop bottle rocket when he got the big bang going.

But if god started it all, who started god? I run into a dead end of logic either way.

I think we are all forms of energy who can trace our ancestry back to the beginning of the universe. And since energy is neither created or destroyed, we'll all continue to be around in one form or another.

I also like the Eight Fold Noble Path.

And I don't care what the rest of you are as long as you leave me out of it.
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