Really? This Offended You? - Page 5

monster · 03-02-2011, 11:26 PM

Careful, we might be scaring people here......

Aliantha · 03-02-2011, 11:27 PM

Either that or the chat police will stop by and give us a move on order.

ZenGum · 03-02-2011, 11:36 PM

If someone really was offended by those relatively tame pics ... HTFU, princess. Or get off the internet. Or at least the bits marked NSFW.

If gravedigger is upset by someone claiming to be offended, HTFU, princess. Or get off the internet.

As a wise dwellar once said, take your licks and move on.

Bullitt · 03-03-2011, 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZenGum

If someone really was offended by those relatively tame pics ... HTFU, princess. Or get off the internet. Or at least the bits marked NSFW.

If gravedigger is upset by someone claiming to be offended, HTFU, princess. Or get off the internet.

As a wise dwellar once said, take your licks and move on.

QFT

Aliantha · 03-02-2011, 11:40 PM

Gee Zen, did you have a bad day today mate? You're not your usual jovial self at all.

ZenGum · 03-03-2011, 05:13 AM

I'm fine, thanks, I'm just trying to throw a bucket of common sense over this little tiff.

Griff · 03-03-2011, 05:37 AM

I'm just glad to see folks are making an attempt to shake off the February doldrums.

Shawnee123 · 03-03-2011, 07:48 AM

Grav, I know this means little coming from me (the one who's "depresseder" than anyone else) but I can tell you that I think I've felt similar to how you're feeling right now.

I've been where I think the whole place is plotting against me. I think that I'm all alone, and I interpret everything as an affront to me.

In retrospect, I've been able to see what is on "me" and what is just "we're all different." Who knows, next week I could be totally pissed off again, but as of late I've been better able to realize that not everyone is going to agree with me or like my style (you can imagine my disbelief when I realized "WHAT? Not everyone on earth likes me? WTF?)

I think people have been really straight on with you about getting the heck over it and moving on. I think that people have maybe held back a little with me when I've gone over the top. I don't know if that's a guy/girl sensitivity, or something else. It's possible that because I've shown that beneath all the tough talk is a sensitive person: I wear my heart on my sleeve so it's all pretty much out there.

If I can play devil's advocate for a moment, maybe your PMer had a point: women have a lot more to offer than just ass and boobies. By extension, you have a lot more to offer than showing your grand appreciation of ass and boobies. You've often cracked me up. You've made me smile...I still think about your pics of the birdie in your yard. I've railed against getting attention because of what we look like. The Cellar, unlike most other forums, and I've dated other forums, places great emphasis on personality. We don't have crazy moving avatars or entire pages devoted to the latest hot naked chick. Because we're so much more than that. I think you're more than that.

So, please get to taking pictures of the birdies in your yard. It's almost spring. I'm not advocating that nekkidness go away...just remember that the dwellars are, or have, wives and mothers and sisters and daughters and aunts.

The whole "why does this offend but that doesn't" is a fair question. Frankly, I wouldn't give you 20 cents for those sorts of pics of anyone. Sheldon, too, has much more to offer. I don't get it, but some do...so there's that difference. But a constant barrage when, again, you've offered much more...well, it's tiresome. I can click beyond those posts, just as I click the stupid word association thread to get it off my "new posts" lists, but it doesn't hurt to be mindful of a large percentage of what you post.

Me, I'll go back to attempting to be funny.

glatt · 03-03-2011, 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shawnee123

I think people have been really straight on with you about getting the heck over it and moving on.

This.

Grav, I enjoy your posts, but you're going off the deep end lately. Come back.

TheMercenary · 03-03-2011, 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gravdigr

***THIS POST CONTAINS LINKS TO CELLAR POSTS THAT ARE NSFW***

First: Again, let me say right off, there was no intention to offend anyone. But someone was offended. By this. But, not, apparently, by this. Really? Offended by this, but, I guess, not offended by this. Really? Offended by stuff like this. But, not stuff like this. Really?

Perhaps you aren't aware that NFSW means Not Safe For Work. That means some people may find the content offensive or unsuitable for viewing in the workplace.

Yet again, I'm sorry you were offended by my postings.

None of it was offensive to me. And the first link, she was hot!

monster · 03-03-2011, 09:51 AM

OK I looked at the links. Here's why, specifically (and Glatt covered some of this in one of your other whine threads in Meta, and Shawnee hit the nail also)

Firstly, you seem to be using the word "offended" when you really mean "pissed off by". they are not the same thing.

You posted two images of scantily clad women in the WTF NSFW thread. They are not "offensive" in themselves to most people, I would say. But they are most definitely not WTF images. There is nothing overly special about those women. Most dwellars do not come to the cellar for that stuff, so it does annoy them -and shawnee's comments about wives daughters and objectifying women is an appropriate point here....

You compare those with (a) a picture of a guy with an enormous dick. That is somewhat WTF, as is the expression on the other guy's face. And it's funny. And it's NSFW. But it definitely has a WTF element. and (b) NSFW picture of a dwellar in the Dwellar NSFW thread. That's doing exactly what is says on the tin. Just because you don't like the penis doesn't mean the pic is inappropriate or offensive where it is.

And your final comparison. Again, the picture you posted not WTF at all. But the post as a whole is mean-spirited and not remotely interesting or amusing. Take Shawnee's comment about mothers/wives and apply it to parents/grandparents. Many of us here are parents, grandparents, we are or know and love and respect seniors. What were you trying to say with that pic? and for the picture you compared it with, see comment (b) above.

It's not the images that are offensive, it's not about nudity and sex, it's your attitude that's offensive, it's about what you are communicating when you post those pics in the places you post them. Seriously, what are you trying to say when you post these images? You want to post pics of scantily clad women because you enjoy them -make a thread for it. In fact there's probably one of Drax's lying around somewhere you can adopt. Personally I'd rather you did that on another forum because I am not interested in that or the sort of viewers it might attract the the forum, but that's not my call. It's yours and the community as a whole. You want to make fun of older people by posting pics of them getting frisky and ridiculing them? Fine. I'm glad you showed your true colors before I wasted too much time on you. That was pretty offensive. Again, not the pic, but the post. You have some growing up to do.

It ain't what you do it's the way that you do it.

And you are not the only person who's suffered kangaroo court justice in here (although as I see it you're the one creating this drama rather than the community). In my memory there's been me, merc, bigv, tiki, shawnee, spexx, lumberjim, tw, radar, classic, shawnee, UG, marichiko(?), emma, drax/datalyss ...and more on the receiving end at one time or another. Whether we feel that our treatment was just or unjust, we get over it and get on with it, or we leave or get banned and aren't so much missed. But it ain't just you -you're not as special as all that.

Now can we please be done with this crap?

footfootfoot · 03-03-2011, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by monster

You have some growing up to do.

edited for salience.

This is evident by "As usual I'm wrong no matter what the fuck the problem is EVER, I'm wrong. Looks like I'm just wrong all the fucking time. I was just born to be wrong I guess."

a) It's all about me
b) Even if it's not all about me, it's all about me
c) It's absolutely all about me all of the time

Gravdigr · 03-07-2011, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by footfootfoot

edited for salience.

This is evident by "As usual I'm wrong no matter what the fuck the problem is EVER, I'm wrong. Looks like I'm just wrong all the fucking time. I was just born to be wrong I guess."

a) It's all about me
b) Even if it's not all about me, it's all about me
c) It's absolutely all about me all of the time

How'd you get your head that far up your ass with your shoulder all fucked up? I would've thought it would take both hands...

Sundae · 03-03-2011, 02:00 PM

Monster you missed out Fresh and Cloud, both of whom had big issues with the supposed cliques when they joined. I clashed with both of them. We don't see Fresh so much now, but I do check his posts when he swings by, even if I decide he's talking rubbish

And Cloud is now a veteran and I post in a lot of long-terms threads initiated by her.

I'm slow to change, but loyal once I have.

HungLikeJesus · 03-06-2011, 08:08 PM

Hang on, Fresh doesn't swing bi, does he?

03-02-2011, 11:26 PM	#1
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	Careful, we might be scaring people here...... __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

03-02-2011, 11:27 PM	#2
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	Either that or the chat police will stop by and give us a move on order. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

03-02-2011, 11:36 PM	#3
ZenGum Doctor Wtf Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Badelaide, Baustralia Posts: 12,861	If someone really was offended by those relatively tame pics ... HTFU, princess. Or get off the internet. Or at least the bits marked NSFW. If gravedigger is upset by someone claiming to be offended, HTFU, princess. Or get off the internet. As a wise dwellar once said, take your licks and move on. __________________ Shut up and hug. MoreThanPretty, Nov 5, 2008. Just because I'm nominally polite, does not make me a pussy. Sundae Girl.

03-02-2011, 11:40 PM	#5
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	Gee Zen, did you have a bad day today mate? You're not your usual jovial self at all. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

03-03-2011, 05:13 AM	#6
ZenGum Doctor Wtf Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Badelaide, Baustralia Posts: 12,861	I'm fine, thanks, I'm just trying to throw a bucket of common sense over this little tiff. __________________ Shut up and hug. MoreThanPretty, Nov 5, 2008. Just because I'm nominally polite, does not make me a pussy. Sundae Girl.

03-03-2011, 05:37 AM	#7
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	I'm just glad to see folks are making an attempt to shake off the February doldrums. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

03-03-2011, 07:48 AM	#8
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	Grav, I know this means little coming from me (the one who's "depresseder" than anyone else) but I can tell you that I think I've felt similar to how you're feeling right now. I've been where I think the whole place is plotting against me. I think that I'm all alone, and I interpret everything as an affront to me. In retrospect, I've been able to see what is on "me" and what is just "we're all different." Who knows, next week I could be totally pissed off again, but as of late I've been better able to realize that not everyone is going to agree with me or like my style (you can imagine my disbelief when I realized "WHAT? Not everyone on earth likes me? WTF?) I think people have been really straight on with you about getting the heck over it and moving on. I think that people have maybe held back a little with me when I've gone over the top. I don't know if that's a guy/girl sensitivity, or something else. It's possible that because I've shown that beneath all the tough talk is a sensitive person: I wear my heart on my sleeve so it's all pretty much out there. If I can play devil's advocate for a moment, maybe your PMer had a point: women have a lot more to offer than just ass and boobies. By extension, you have a lot more to offer than showing your grand appreciation of ass and boobies. You've often cracked me up. You've made me smile...I still think about your pics of the birdie in your yard. I've railed against getting attention because of what we look like. The Cellar, unlike most other forums, and I've dated other forums, places great emphasis on personality. We don't have crazy moving avatars or entire pages devoted to the latest hot naked chick. Because we're so much more than that. I think you're more than that. So, please get to taking pictures of the birdies in your yard. It's almost spring. I'm not advocating that nekkidness go away...just remember that the dwellars are, or have, wives and mothers and sisters and daughters and aunts. The whole "why does this offend but that doesn't" is a fair question. Frankly, I wouldn't give you 20 cents for those sorts of pics of anyone. Sheldon, too, has much more to offer. I don't get it, but some do...so there's that difference. But a constant barrage when, again, you've offered much more...well, it's tiresome. I can click beyond those posts, just as I click the stupid word association thread to get it off my "new posts" lists, but it doesn't hurt to be mindful of a large percentage of what you post. Me, I'll go back to attempting to be funny. __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

03-03-2011, 09:51 AM	#11
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	OK I looked at the links. Here's why, specifically (and Glatt covered some of this in one of your other whine threads in Meta, and Shawnee hit the nail also) Firstly, you seem to be using the word "offended" when you really mean "pissed off by". they are not the same thing. You posted two images of scantily clad women in the WTF NSFW thread. They are not "offensive" in themselves to most people, I would say. But they are most definitely not WTF images. There is nothing overly special about those women. Most dwellars do not come to the cellar for that stuff, so it does annoy them -and shawnee's comments about wives daughters and objectifying women is an appropriate point here.... You compare those with (a) a picture of a guy with an enormous dick. That is somewhat WTF, as is the expression on the other guy's face. And it's funny. And it's NSFW. But it definitely has a WTF element. and (b) NSFW picture of a dwellar in the Dwellar NSFW thread. That's doing exactly what is says on the tin. Just because you don't like the penis doesn't mean the pic is inappropriate or offensive where it is. And your final comparison. Again, the picture you posted not WTF at all. But the post as a whole is mean-spirited and not remotely interesting or amusing. Take Shawnee's comment about mothers/wives and apply it to parents/grandparents. Many of us here are parents, grandparents, we are or know and love and respect seniors. What were you trying to say with that pic? and for the picture you compared it with, see comment (b) above. It's not the images that are offensive, it's not about nudity and sex, it's your attitude that's offensive, it's about what you are communicating when you post those pics in the places you post them. Seriously, what are you trying to say when you post these images? You want to post pics of scantily clad women because you enjoy them -make a thread for it. In fact there's probably one of Drax's lying around somewhere you can adopt. Personally I'd rather you did that on another forum because I am not interested in that or the sort of viewers it might attract the the forum, but that's not my call. It's yours and the community as a whole. You want to make fun of older people by posting pics of them getting frisky and ridiculing them? Fine. I'm glad you showed your true colors before I wasted too much time on you. That was pretty offensive. Again, not the pic, but the post. You have some growing up to do. It ain't what you do it's the way that you do it. And you are not the only person who's suffered kangaroo court justice in here (although as I see it you're the one creating this drama rather than the community). In my memory there's been me, merc, bigv, tiki, shawnee, spexx, lumberjim, tw, radar, classic, shawnee, UG, marichiko(?), emma, drax/datalyss ...and more on the receiving end at one time or another. Whether we feel that our treatment was just or unjust, we get over it and get on with it, or we leave or get banned and aren't so much missed. But it ain't just you -you're not as special as all that. Now can we please be done with this crap? __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

03-03-2011, 02:00 PM	#14
Sundae polaroid of perfection Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 24,185	Monster you missed out Fresh and Cloud, both of whom had big issues with the supposed cliques when they joined. I clashed with both of them. We don't see Fresh so much now, but I do check his posts when he swings by, even if I decide he's talking rubbish And Cloud is now a veteran and I post in a lot of long-terms threads initiated by her. I'm slow to change, but loyal once I have.

03-06-2011, 08:08 PM	#15
HungLikeJesus Only looks like a disaster tourist Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: above 7,000 feet Posts: 7,208	Hang on, Fresh doesn't swing bi, does he? __________________ Keep Your Bodies Off My Lawn SteveDallas's Random Thread Picker.

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