July 8, 2010: Fingernailed - Page 5

classicman · 07-09-2010, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Sundae Girl

Just correcting a fact - Khloe Kardashian was convicted of a DUI, not Kim.

Just for accuracy, I never said Kim got a DUI.

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I just think once she's in the system she should follow the rules.
She can drink her head off as far as I'm concerned - I don't know her so I don't care about her. But she can afford a taxi. She must have loads of friends with cars. She can stay home and order in - keep it off the streets.

AND she has been missing the classes prescribed.
One because she went to Cannes.
That is when I think "Just suck it up". Do your classes. It's not overly punitive. They are for an offence THREE YEARS AGO. How many classes could there have been?
If I thought I might go to prison otherwise I'd have camped on their doorstep.
I tend to strip the addict part out and just see a (SPOILED) young lady who thought she could buck the system. She's learned she can't, in a rather unpleasant way. But better this than her getting tanked up behind the wheel and next time ending someone's life.

BOLD MINE
yup yup yup

xoxoxoBruce · 07-09-2010, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Griff

No shit, how'd that happen?

Andy and Aunt Bea drug him up proper.

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Originally Posted by Brianna

Most addicts (including myself) have never forgiven themselves and are their own worst enemy/critic/hater which makes it hard to recover AND the addicted brain LOVES to use this as an excuse.

LiLo is afraid - and who wouldn't be? - and it doesn't seem like she has any internal coping mechanisms or reserve (ha! hence the addiction!) so it makes perfect sense for her to throw a tantrum. I can only hope she turns it around the way Robert Downey Jr. did - coz that man was effed up before he cleaned it up.

She's been "somebody special" her whole life... the paparazzi, the money, the A list parties. Her addiction isn't a problem for me, plenty of addicts go through life without hurting anyone else, functioning and paying their way. But when they think they are above worrying about hurting others, it's time to slap them down. The court allowed her to keep taking the 5 prescriptions because they don't care what she does to herself, the court is trying to keep her from hurting others.

Shawnee123 · 07-09-2010, 09:48 AM

OH. MY. GAWD.

Too much. I gotta get out of this thread. For christ's fuck.

SamIam · 07-09-2010, 10:08 AM

Shawnee, if I ever start drinking again (God forbid), I want you as my sponsor.

Shawnee123 · 07-09-2010, 10:15 AM

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Shawnee, if I ever start drinking again (God forbid), I want you as my sponsor.

Heehehe...no you don't. I would totally suck at sponsoring. I'm good at commiserating though, if there's an opening.

And stay on the path, Sam, you are doing wonderfully!

glatt: her lawyer looked pretty disgusted with her in the sentencing video, as I would have been.

I hope the girl gets some help. She needs it.

glatt · 07-09-2010, 10:14 AM

I read this morning that her lawyer quit.

Shawnee123 · 07-09-2010, 10:28 AM

Ha! The media?

Shawnee123 · 07-09-2010, 11:26 AM

But there is a difference between compassion and enabling, as there is a difference between enabling and stoning ('scuse the pun.)

People with support systems (compassion without enabling) are typically more successful. Being ashamed of oneself is a huge symptom (could be chicken AND egg) of addiction, and a real roadblock in not only seeking help, but in stepping forward and making one's way out of the shit.

I agree that "awww, poor poor thing" helps no one. I also think public condemnation helps no one. When one has one's foot in the door, whether by force or by free will, they can best be served by compassion without pity, encouragement without excuses.

Nirvana · 07-09-2010, 11:37 AM

I think the system may be enabling her if she is allowed to take one of her prescription drugs. A couple I can see like Zoloft and Adderall but WTF does she need dilaudid ?

classicman · 07-09-2010, 11:52 AM

... and blame you for all the wrongs they've done.

Shawnee123 · 07-09-2010, 11:57 AM

Classic, how can you keep proclaiming what a former addict you are? Just a couple weeks ago you posted about the beers you were drinking. I've heard it time and time again from you, how you've conquered some demons (which as far as I can tell was normal young people partying) then raising a beer in a thread or saying "I don't know, I was drinking beers (or wine) that night."

But yeah, big man is walking the walk, talking the talk, lying the lie. As per usual. Hey, it could all be true, but will you make up your mind what YOUR personal truth is? You don't seem to have much of a handle on it.

And the addict in my life thanked me, still does, for being there for him when he was ready to get out of rock bottom.

I see whining about being prey to an addict as pitiful as pity for the addict themself.

Shawnee123 · 07-09-2010, 02:26 PM

Drunk drivers are lucky if they don't kill themselves, or their friends, or complete strangers. No argument there.

I am surprised at other addicts who can't have any compassion (yes, even for the sneakiness, the duplicity, the "fuck you" attitude that pervades an addicts mind.) Then again, sometimes people are truly addicts and sometimes it's a way to get attention.

Maybe, and I don't know, once one has come through on the other side there is no memory of what it felt like. Hopefully that is true healing, I would hate to think of it as dry-drunkenness or ostrich-head sand-stuffing.

I don't think Ms Lohan would act so repulsively to get attention: that is a true addict acting out right there. Addicts don't care how ugly you think they look, or how horrible you think they are. They need help, not "poo-poo's" from those who've never dealt with it, or those who think they have but have no idea of the depths addiction can take one to. Or, just can't seem beyond themself to realize that one size doesn't fit all in the timeline, treatment, and realization of addiction. 'Cause that would be the epitome of egocentrism.

I, for one, applaud Bri for her honesty in all her dealings with her demons. I would think that being an innerly honest person would help one truly recover. You DA girl, girl!

classicman · 07-14-2010, 02:20 PM

Lesbian Prison Gangs Waiting to Get Hands on Lindsay Lohan, Inmate Says

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Inmates of the jail where Lindsay Lohan is set to spend up to 90 days have warned of gangs out to attack the starlet, saying "everyone will want a piece of her," one inmate said in an interview with The Sun.

Bwahahahahahah

They actually took the time to write this story?

squirell nutkin · 07-14-2010, 02:22 PM

that woudl explain why the tabloids want to get her exclusive post prison story. They know something LiLo don't

xoxoxoBruce · 07-14-2010, 04:04 PM

She won't be in jail more than two dozen days, and won't have contact with Lesbian prison gangs.

07-09-2010, 09:48 AM	#3
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	OH. MY. GAWD. Too much. I gotta get out of this thread. For christ's fuck. __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

07-09-2010, 10:28 AM	#7
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	Ha! The media? __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

07-09-2010, 11:26 AM	#8
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	But there is a difference between compassion and enabling, as there is a difference between enabling and stoning ('scuse the pun.) People with support systems (compassion without enabling) are typically more successful. Being ashamed of oneself is a huge symptom (could be chicken AND egg) of addiction, and a real roadblock in not only seeking help, but in stepping forward and making one's way out of the shit. I agree that "awww, poor poor thing" helps no one. I also think public condemnation helps no one. When one has one's foot in the door, whether by force or by free will, they can best be served by compassion without pity, encouragement without excuses. __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

07-09-2010, 11:37 AM	#9
Nirvana Back in 10 Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 3,684	I think the system may be enabling her if she is allowed to take one of her prescription drugs. A couple I can see like Zoloft and Adderall but WTF does she need dilaudid ? __________________ Speaking simply... do not confuse this with having a simple mind.

07-09-2010, 11:52 AM	#10
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	... and blame you for all the wrongs they've done. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

07-09-2010, 10:08 AM	#4
SamIam Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Not here Posts: 2,655	Shawnee, if I ever start drinking again (God forbid), I want you as my sponsor.

07-09-2010, 10:14 AM	#6
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	I read this morning that her lawyer quit.

07-09-2010, 11:57 AM	#11
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	Classic, how can you keep proclaiming what a former addict you are? Just a couple weeks ago you posted about the beers you were drinking. I've heard it time and time again from you, how you've conquered some demons (which as far as I can tell was normal young people partying) then raising a beer in a thread or saying "I don't know, I was drinking beers (or wine) that night." But yeah, big man is walking the walk, talking the talk, lying the lie. As per usual. Hey, it could all be true, but will you make up your mind what YOUR personal truth is? You don't seem to have much of a handle on it. And the addict in my life thanked me, still does, for being there for him when he was ready to get out of rock bottom. I see whining about being prey to an addict as pitiful as pity for the addict themself. __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

07-09-2010, 02:26 PM	#12
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	Drunk drivers are lucky if they don't kill themselves, or their friends, or complete strangers. No argument there. I am surprised at other addicts who can't have any compassion (yes, even for the sneakiness, the duplicity, the "fuck you" attitude that pervades an addicts mind.) Then again, sometimes people are truly addicts and sometimes it's a way to get attention. Maybe, and I don't know, once one has come through on the other side there is no memory of what it felt like. Hopefully that is true healing, I would hate to think of it as dry-drunkenness or ostrich-head sand-stuffing. I don't think Ms Lohan would act so repulsively to get attention: that is a true addict acting out right there. Addicts don't care how ugly you think they look, or how horrible you think they are. They need help, not "poo-poo's" from those who've never dealt with it, or those who think they have but have no idea of the depths addiction can take one to. Or, just can't seem beyond themself to realize that one size doesn't fit all in the timeline, treatment, and realization of addiction. 'Cause that would be the epitome of egocentrism. I, for one, applaud Bri for her honesty in all her dealings with her demons. I would think that being an innerly honest person would help one truly recover. You DA girl, girl! __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby Last edited by Shawnee123; 07-09-2010 at 02:38 PM.

07-14-2010, 02:22 PM	#14
squirell nutkin has a second hand user title Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: in a Nut House Posts: 2,017	that woudl explain why the tabloids want to get her exclusive post prison story. They know something LiLo don't __________________ And now I'm finished posting.

07-14-2010, 04:04 PM	#15
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	She won't be in jail more than two dozen days, and won't have contact with Lesbian prison gangs. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

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