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03-09-2010, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Maybe you Socialists.....

All recipients of federal assistance should be required to appear at Congressional hearings and testify under oath that they are not now, nor have ever been, a Socialist, never palled around with terrorists..oh, and yes, that the US is a Christian nation.

classicman · 03-10-2010, 03:36 PM

Eh hem.

piercehawkeye45 · 03-11-2010, 09:13 AM

From what I understand, schizophrenia is partly genetic and partly environmental. People who have a history of schizophrenia in their family have a higher chance of getting it but I think environment plays a fairly large role as well. And by environment I'm not necessarily talking about drug use either.

wolf · 03-11-2010, 11:06 AM

Nobody really understands the mechanism of action in schizophrenia, but it isn't caused by smoking weed or dropping acid. Those activities merely coincide with the age of onset.

Interestingly, a lot of parents cling to the hope that their kid is wacky because of drug use rather than schizophrenia. You can get over using drugs.

Very often prodromal schizophrenics (what we used to call schizophreniform disorder when we suspected a first break, but I have't seen that term used in years even though it's still listed in the big book o' crazy) do turn to drug use as a means of treating or avoiding their symptoms.

piercehawkeye45 · 03-11-2010, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by wolf

Nobody really understands the mechanism of action in schizophrenia, but it isn't caused by smoking weed or dropping acid. Those activities merely coincide with the age of onset.

I never said it was caused by smoking weed or dropping acid. I said (or meant at least) that smoking weed or dropping acid can increase the chances of you getting schizophrenia. I know someone who has an uncle in a mental hospital because, why trying to smuggle acid in the states, accidentally took over 100 hits at one time. I would be extremely surprised if there is no connection between hallucinogenics and schizophrenia.

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

I looked and most of the info supported the fact that there can be some long term effects. This was interesting: http://www.visualsnow.com/informatio...raham60-64.pdf

Funny you bring that up. I actually have residual visual effects from taking a single hit of acid. Its not bad, just minor trails behind moving objects, but even something that small can fuck you up for a few months. All strong hallucinogenics are double edged swords. They can potentially have a strong influence in your life but they can also have some very strong, and many times permanent, consequences. True definition of risk.

I couldn't imagine getting something as bad as HPPD.

Undertoad · 03-11-2010, 12:15 PM

But acid use does lead to permanent changes in the brain, right? It always seemed to, in the acidheads I've known.

TheMercenary · 03-11-2010, 12:19 PM

Most of the acid heads I knew never were the same after repeated use.

I looked and most of the info supported the fact that there can be some long term effects. This was interesting: http://www.visualsnow.com/informatio...raham60-64.pdf

which would support some kind of long term physical changes in the brain.

03-10-2010, 03:36 PM	#2
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Eh hem. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

03-11-2010, 09:13 AM	#3
piercehawkeye45 Franklin Pierce Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,695	From what I understand, schizophrenia is partly genetic and partly environmental. People who have a history of schizophrenia in their family have a higher chance of getting it but I think environment plays a fairly large role as well. And by environment I'm not necessarily talking about drug use either. __________________ I like my perspectives like I like my baseball caps: one size fits all.

03-11-2010, 11:06 AM	#4
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	Nobody really understands the mechanism of action in schizophrenia, but it isn't caused by smoking weed or dropping acid. Those activities merely coincide with the age of onset. Interestingly, a lot of parents cling to the hope that their kid is wacky because of drug use rather than schizophrenia. You can get over using drugs. Very often prodromal schizophrenics (what we used to call schizophreniform disorder when we suspected a first break, but I have't seen that term used in years even though it's still listed in the big book o' crazy) do turn to drug use as a means of treating or avoiding their symptoms. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

03-11-2010, 12:19 PM	#7
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	Most of the acid heads I knew never were the same after repeated use. I looked and most of the info supported the fact that there can be some long term effects. This was interesting: http://www.visualsnow.com/informatio...raham60-64.pdf which would support some kind of long term physical changes in the brain. Last edited by TheMercenary; 03-11-2010 at 12:24 PM.

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Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	But acid use does lead to permanent changes in the brain, right? It always seemed to, in the acidheads I've known.

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