Roadside Memorials, Utah fight - Page 5

Clodfobble · 11-27-2007, 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lookout123

please explain how a cross that is not paid for or maintained with tax dollars breaches the separation.

In the case of the particular cross in Utah that started this thread, it is in fact paid for and maintained with tax dollars. But you're right, your average roadside cross is not.

classicman · 11-27-2007, 09:58 PM

But those average roadside crosses are typically on public land and thats what rk was bitchin about. Well that was one thing anyway.

xoxoxoBruce · 11-27-2007, 11:21 PM

Not in PA. I own, and pay taxes on, the land to the center of the road. The government has an easement to use part of my land for public right-of-way, but I still own it.

classicman · 11-28-2007, 08:06 AM

So you, the land owner, can put a memorial on it?

xoxoxoBruce · 11-28-2007, 09:44 AM

Sure, as long as the government doesn't deem it a hazard to their right-of-way use. I also have local ordinance considerations, like signage in residential neighborhoods, etc, etc.

classicman · 11-28-2007, 12:24 PM

Thanks - that's what I thought.

Aliantha · 11-28-2007, 05:03 PM

I suppose if people have a right to put up memorials, you also have a right to take them down if they're on public land.

11-28-2007, 05:45 PM

Well said Ali.

classicman · 11-28-2007, 08:13 PM

Ohh that is an interesting thought to ponder, Ali. I wonder who owns them once they are ... erected.

Aliantha · 11-28-2007, 08:14 PM

I guess whoever put the erection there actually owns the erection. There's always something or someone who can spoil a good erection though.

classicman · 11-28-2007, 08:16 PM

I just knew it - you had to go there didn't ya?

Aliantha · 11-28-2007, 08:16 PM

you went there first...

classicman · 11-28-2007, 08:18 PM

And you came right along with me - not even a 2nd thought

Aliantha · 11-28-2007, 08:18 PM

well...it seemed like a good idea at the time

classicman · 11-28-2007, 08:21 PM

LOL That sentnce has followed most of the dumbest things I've ever done in my life...

11-27-2007, 11:21 PM	#3
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Not in PA. I own, and pay taxes on, the land to the center of the road. The government has an easement to use part of my land for public right-of-way, but I still own it. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

11-28-2007, 08:06 AM	#4
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	So you, the land owner, can put a memorial on it? Last edited by classicman; 11-28-2007 at 08:25 AM.

11-28-2007, 09:44 AM	#5
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Sure, as long as the government doesn't deem it a hazard to their right-of-way use. I also have local ordinance considerations, like signage in residential neighborhoods, etc, etc. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

11-28-2007, 05:03 PM	#7
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	I suppose if people have a right to put up memorials, you also have a right to take them down if they're on public land. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

11-28-2007, 08:14 PM	#10
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	I guess whoever put the erection there actually owns the erection. There's always something or someone who can spoil a good erection though. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

11-27-2007, 09:58 PM	#2
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	But those average roadside crosses are typically on public land and thats what rk was bitchin about. Well that was one thing anyway.

11-28-2007, 12:24 PM	#6
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Thanks - that's what I thought.

11-28-2007, 05:45 PM	#8
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	Well said Ali.

11-28-2007, 08:13 PM	#9
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Ohh that is an interesting thought to ponder, Ali. I wonder who owns them once they are ... erected.

11-28-2007, 08:16 PM	#11
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	I just knew it - you had to go there didn't ya?

11-28-2007, 08:16 PM	#12
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	you went there first... __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

11-28-2007, 08:18 PM	#13
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	And you came right along with me - not even a 2nd thought

11-28-2007, 08:21 PM	#15
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	LOL That sentnce has followed most of the dumbest things I've ever done in my life...

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