Wego Kite Tube of Death Accident - Page 5

MaggieL · 07-03-2006, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by davekridandtori

MaggieL,
Tell me seriously You work for SportStuff huh?

No. I've been on The Cellar since the mid-1990s... so far you've been here a week and have posted twice.

Will you be back in another week to check on whether you got any bites here?
Which law firm are you shilling for again? You can tell us...

They told you if you sprinkled in some mispellings the astroturfing would look realistic, I see.

07-03-2006, 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pangloss62

I must say that, as a young male in the 80s, I was irrevocably damaged by the pernicious lyrics of rock music. It colored my perception of the world to the point where I acted out every death metal command I heard. Me and my like-minded friends burnt down houses, murdered, raped, and pillaged entire communities, and brought a hail of death and destruction upon all people who got in our way. That is the power of music and lyrics.

I read about that... are you still a preacher? :p

Ibby · 07-06-2006, 06:46 AM

Probably because they AREN'T safe. None of us said they WERE, as far as I know.

Elspode · 07-06-2006, 10:20 AM

Is this just the Kansas City District banning these? I would think that the Corps would make it nationwide, rather than just one district.

I think we've all agreed that the things are dangerous, if not stupid. However, we have some disagreement over whether or not people should be allowed to either do stupid things or sue someone because they've done something stupid.

Pangloss62 · 07-06-2006, 10:53 AM

I'm just surprised the Kite Tube threads generated so much response. Who woulda thunk?

07-06-2006, 11:28 AM

Me. Two types of people, those who believe they are better than others and should be allowed to force their opinions on them and those who believe in freedom.
Issues that touch on the difference between those groups always generate lively discussions.
Same as/for anti-anything, prayer in school and over regulation of any kind.

Pangloss62 · 07-06-2006, 11:54 AM

People have always been able to pray in schools. It's when the teachers or principal recites the prayer aloud where they begin to "force their opinion." I don't know if you would agree or disagree.

I'm a libertarian on some issues, like the freedom to do to yourself what you want (smoke weed, stick a screwdriver in your ear, go to church), but I also think we need to consider the impact of our actions on others and the environment. To be honest, I dislike the motorboats more than the guy breaking his neck with the tube.

07-06-2006, 11:58 AM

"Prayer in school" was a title, I was not trying to be specific.
I am a Libertarian as well... protecting the environment does not contradict that. I grew-up skiing, but also like to canoe, just not on lakes.

Pangloss62 · 07-06-2006, 01:25 PM

I think libertarianism can run into conflicts with environmentalism when it comes to "property rights" arguments. Like any ism, if it's taken too far it can be damaging.

There are a lot of neo-Randian libertarians around these days; they scare me.

I always had a problem with Ski Resorts; then I went skiing for the first time and had a blast! Mt. Okemo, in Vermont. Man that was fun. I suppose there's no good snow skiing in FL.

07-06-2006, 02:02 PM

Water skiing is what I did... lol.
Thing is, as a libertarian, as long as what you are doing on your property ONLY affects you property, ever, I'm ok with not regulating it... outside of that, we need guidelines.

Undertoad · 07-07-2006, 07:22 AM

Fark is all over this, this morning, and somebody had a vid of an accident.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7H0k9Uvt2os

You can watch any amount of it to see what it's like to fly in this thing, and then the last ten seconds to see what it's like to wipe out.

wolf · 07-07-2006, 10:24 AM

By the audio of "floor it" and "gun it" one may presume that the manufacturer's instructions were not followed.

Elspode · 07-07-2006, 10:33 AM

Was there any indication of the aftermath (injuries?)?

Clearly, the speeds necessary to get the thing flying, rather than planing, are too high to be safe, considering the virtually zero level of stability. It isn't so bad if the thing rotates left or right if the water is a foot beneath the edge, but if the water is 15 feet beneath the edge, it is going ass over teakettle, and someone is gonna get squished.

Having seen this video, I am starting to at least appreciate a bit more the point of view that the nature of the advertising (showing people zooming through the air at impressive heights) of this product is contributory to its eventual misuse. Dude was fine when he was only coming a couple feet off the water.

Ibby · 07-07-2006, 12:03 PM

He said he got a concussion and a bruised lung, and coughed blood for a week. Or something like that.

Clodfobble · 07-07-2006, 03:39 PM

You know what I'd do if I were going to get sued for my obscure, dangerous-as-all-hell sporting equipment?

I'd deluge the internet with information about them (come on, how many brand-new users have to start threads about these before you get suspicious that something's up?), and get people to have endless debates over whether anyone could know how dangerous they are. Because then 9 months from now, when the case finally goes to court, it has become "common knowledge" how dangerous they are, and the people who were injured could reasonably be expected to know that and therefore have no case. [/cynic]

07-06-2006, 06:46 AM	#3
Ibby erika Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: "the high up north" Posts: 6,127	Probably because they AREN'T safe. None of us said they WERE, as far as I know. __________________ not really back, you didn't see me, i was never here shhhhhh

07-06-2006, 10:20 AM	#4
Elspode When Do I Get Virtual Unreality? Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Raytown, Missouri Posts: 12,719	Is this just the Kansas City District banning these? I would think that the Corps would make it nationwide, rather than just one district. I think we've all agreed that the things are dangerous, if not stupid. However, we have some disagreement over whether or not people should be allowed to either do stupid things or sue someone because they've done something stupid. __________________ "To those of you who are wearing ties, I think my dad would appreciate it if you took them off." - Robert Moog

07-06-2006, 10:53 AM	#5
Pangloss62 Lecturer Join Date: May 2006 Location: Atlanta Posts: 768	I'm just surprised the Kite Tube threads generated so much response. Who woulda thunk? __________________ Things are never as good, or bad, as they seem.

07-06-2006, 11:54 AM	#7
Pangloss62 Lecturer Join Date: May 2006 Location: Atlanta Posts: 768	People have always been able to pray in schools. It's when the teachers or principal recites the prayer aloud where they begin to "force their opinion." I don't know if you would agree or disagree. I'm a libertarian on some issues, like the freedom to do to yourself what you want (smoke weed, stick a screwdriver in your ear, go to church), but I also think we need to consider the impact of our actions on others and the environment. To be honest, I dislike the motorboats more than the guy breaking his neck with the tube. __________________ Things are never as good, or bad, as they seem.

07-06-2006, 01:25 PM	#9
Pangloss62 Lecturer Join Date: May 2006 Location: Atlanta Posts: 768	Liberty I think libertarianism can run into conflicts with environmentalism when it comes to "property rights" arguments. Like any ism, if it's taken too far it can be damaging. There are a lot of neo-Randian libertarians around these days; they scare me. I always had a problem with Ski Resorts; then I went skiing for the first time and had a blast! Mt. Okemo, in Vermont. Man that was fun. I suppose there's no good snow skiing in FL. __________________ Things are never as good, or bad, as they seem.

07-06-2006, 11:28 AM	#6
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	Me. Two types of people, those who believe they are better than others and should be allowed to force their opinions on them and those who believe in freedom. Issues that touch on the difference between those groups always generate lively discussions. Same as/for anti-anything, prayer in school and over regulation of any kind.

07-06-2006, 11:58 AM	#8
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	"Prayer in school" was a title, I was not trying to be specific. I am a Libertarian as well... protecting the environment does not contradict that. I grew-up skiing, but also like to canoe, just not on lakes.

07-06-2006, 02:02 PM	#10
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	Water skiing is what I did... lol. Thing is, as a libertarian, as long as what you are doing on your property ONLY affects you property, ever, I'm ok with not regulating it... outside of that, we need guidelines.

07-07-2006, 07:22 AM	#11
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Fark is all over this, this morning, and somebody had a vid of an accident. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7H0k9Uvt2os You can watch any amount of it to see what it's like to fly in this thing, and then the last ten seconds to see what it's like to wipe out.

07-07-2006, 10:24 AM	#12
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	By the audio of "floor it" and "gun it" one may presume that the manufacturer's instructions were not followed. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

07-07-2006, 10:33 AM	#13
Elspode When Do I Get Virtual Unreality? Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Raytown, Missouri Posts: 12,719	Was there any indication of the aftermath (injuries?)? Clearly, the speeds necessary to get the thing flying, rather than planing, are too high to be safe, considering the virtually zero level of stability. It isn't so bad if the thing rotates left or right if the water is a foot beneath the edge, but if the water is 15 feet beneath the edge, it is going ass over teakettle, and someone is gonna get squished. Having seen this video, I am starting to at least appreciate a bit more the point of view that the nature of the advertising (showing people zooming through the air at impressive heights) of this product is contributory to its eventual misuse. Dude was fine when he was only coming a couple feet off the water. __________________ "To those of you who are wearing ties, I think my dad would appreciate it if you took them off." - Robert Moog

07-07-2006, 12:03 PM	#14
Ibby erika Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: "the high up north" Posts: 6,127	He said he got a concussion and a bruised lung, and coughed blood for a week. Or something like that. __________________ not really back, you didn't see me, i was never here shhhhhh

07-07-2006, 03:39 PM	#15
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	You know what I'd do if I were going to get sued for my obscure, dangerous-as-all-hell sporting equipment? I'd deluge the internet with information about them (come on, how many brand-new users have to start threads about these before you get suspicious that something's up?), and get people to have endless debates over whether anyone could know how dangerous they are. Because then 9 months from now, when the case finally goes to court, it has become "common knowledge" how dangerous they are, and the people who were injured could reasonably be expected to know that and therefore have no case. [/cynic]

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