Bush's Shrinking Safety Zone

[yesman065]

I'm sure there are plenty of workers available to do this. Oh wait maybe the unemployment rate is only 4.5% and thats why - hmmm

[Clodfobble]

Originally Posted by yesman065

I'm sure there are plenty of workers available to do this.

Not unless you import them from non-border states.

[TheMercenary]

Plenty of national guard and reserve units to do the work. Pull them out of Iraq and let them work at home. Close the frigging borders now. Then talk about reforming policy. Nothing can or should be done till the tide of illegals is halted.

[yesman065]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Plenty of national guard and reserve units to do the work. Pull them out of Iraq and let them work at home. Close the frigging borders now. Then talk about reforming policy. Nothing can or should be done till the tide of illegals is halted.

I agree - see post #667

[DanaC]

Nothing can or should be done till the tide of illegals is halted.

Ay. I hate that kind of terminology when it's applied to people. 'tide', 'flood', 'swamped by'.

'tide of illegals'. Nothing in that phrase indicates that it refers, in any way, to the movement of human beings.

[yesman065]

Originally Posted by DanaC

Ay. I hate that kind of terminology when it's applied to people. 'tide', 'flood', 'swamped by'.

'tide of illegals'. Nothing in that phrase indicates that it refers, in any way, to the movement of human beings.

I can respect that opinion, but we really do need to get this under our control. They are our borders and we should be in a position to control it. Too many drugs and terrorists can come here through there unchecked. There is a stor going on about two border agents who shot an illegal in the ass while he was bringing 750lbs of narcotics over. They were sentenced to 12 years. Wait, isn't that what they are supposed to be doing??? Oh and the "illegal" who was given immunity to testify agianst them was recently caught transporting more drugs into the U.S.

[bluecuracao]

Originally Posted by yesman065

There is a stor going on about two border agents who shot an illegal in the ass while he was bringing 750lbs of narcotics over. They were sentenced to 12 years. Wait, isn't that what they are supposed to be doing??? Oh and the "illegal" who was given immunity to testify agianst them was recently caught transporting more drugs into the U.S.

Problem is, they shot him as he was running away, didn't know his legal status at the time, and didn't even know he was transporting drugs. Then, the agents didn't report the incident and tried to cover it up by collecting the shell casings. Border agents aren't supposed to do stuff like that.

[yesman065]

Originally Posted by bluecuracao

Problem is, they shot him as he was running away, didn't know his legal status at the time, and didn't even know he was transporting drugs. Then, the agents didn't report the incident and tried to cover it up by collecting the shell casings. Border agents aren't supposed to do stuff like that.

My understanding was that they were very familiar with this particular individual AND he was shot in the U.S.while commiting a crime. It doesn't matter what his legal status was. Perhaps not wverything was dne right, but the reality is what it is. They got 12 years and this POS goes free to do it again - The real incriminating evidence was the illegals testimony and now that he has gotten caught transporting drugs again, how reliable was/is that?

[bluecuracao]

Originally Posted by yesman065

My understanding was that they were very familiar with this particular individual AND he was shot in the U.S.while commiting a crime. It doesn't matter what his legal status was. Perhaps not wverything was dne right, but the reality is what it is. They got 12 years and this POS goes free to do it again - The real incriminating evidence was the illegals testimony and now that he has gotten caught transporting drugs again, how reliable was/is that?

According to the U.S. Attorney's office in Texas, he was not committing a crime when he was shot. Even if they didn't have the guy's testimony, they still have enough evidence (like ballistics) that the agents screwed up, big time.

[TheMercenary]

All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players;
They have their exits and their entrances;
Many do it legally, many do not;
Hence our need to stem the flood.

[DanaC]

They are not a flood. They do not drown you.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by DanaC

They are not a flood. They do not drown you.

Not all people drown in a flood, but they can be consumed and surrounded by water.

[TheMercenary]

Well they did shoot him in the backside as he was trying to get back across the border. But I think they should be allowed to do that if you are transporting drugs into the US.

[DanaC]

Not all people drown in a flood, but they can be consumed and surrounded by water.

Consumed? Surrounded? How the fuck do 10 million people consume and surround 300 million?

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by DanaC

Consumed? Surrounded? How the fuck do 10 million people consume and surround 300 million?

Depends on where you live. Those 10 million, more like 30 million by some estimates, are often concentrated in different areas. They do surround and they consume our tax dollars.