Now that Georgie has lost the Election...

[glatt]

Originally Posted by wolf

So do we, radar. Can you go join the wife in the workers paradise?

Who is "we?" You and the mouse in your pocket?

[wolf]

Originally Posted by glatt

Who is "we?" You and the mouse in your pocket?

shhhhh. I'm trying to encourage radar to leave the country.

[OnyxCougar]

Think it's time to move back to England.

[Troubleshooter]

Originally Posted by OnyxCougar

Think it's time to move back to England.

No, it's time to dig in and defend what's yours.

[OnyxCougar]

Fox news just said, and I quote...

"The red states just got redder."

Indeed.

[Undertoad]

Everyone will have their own explanation of what happened, here's mine:

Fahrenheit 9/11 and the ugly 529s were more effective at motivating the opposition than at convincing anyone to change their minds.

move the fuck on already dot org.

[Kitsune]

Yeah, but if they'd voted for the other guy, two HOMOS might get married someday, and that trumps everything else, right?

Gay WOLF Marriage (Quicktime, ~11.5Mb)

[OnyxCougar]

That's exactly what I'll be doing by leaving the United States. Protecting what's mine. You know, I don't have alot, I have about 2 carloads of possesions so what's mine is my family.

I have a 16 year old son who graduates in 3 years, when there will most likely be a draft. He'll be carted off to Iraq with other people's children, with a considerable percentage in favor of being maimed or killed, and an even higher percentage that he won't be given the correct amount of training and/or protection for the job he's tasked to perform. He'll make so little that he'll qualify for food stamps.

And all for what? To protect this guy's flawed policies and ego? I don't think so. "Defending America" does NOT equal being in Iraq.

[Troubleshooter]

Originally Posted by OnyxCougar

That's exactly what I'll be doing by leaving the United States.

My point was that there is more to being an American than just you and I. There is us. By leaving, you take one more voice away from what was actually entrusted to us by our founding fathers. The power to exercise the ultimate vote.

The president is our servant, he is there to organize and administrate, nothing else. Polticians have forgotten that. If they keep pushing, Americans are going to be forced to get Jeffersonian.

[Trilby]

Originally Posted by Troubleshooter

The president is our servant, .

Bush is NOBODY's servant. He's an arrogant rich kid with connections thanks to daddy. I can't believe you think he's our "servant"--even HE'd choke on that one. If anything he's cheney's bitch.

[Troubleshooter]

Originally Posted by Brianna

Bush is NOBODY's servant. He's an arrogant rich kid with connections thanks to daddy. I can't believe you think he's our "servant"--even HE'd choke on that one. If anything he's cheney's bitch.

I said that the president, and more generally all politicians, are our servants. The fact that they no longer chose, and we allow them, to fullfil their roles properly doesn't change that.

[OnyxCougar]

Originally Posted by Troubleshooter

My point was that there is more to being an American than just you and I. There is us. By leaving, you take one more voice away from what was actually entrusted to us by our founding fathers. The power to exercise the ultimate vote.

The president is our servant, he is there to organize and administrate, nothing else. Polticians have forgotten that. If they keep pushing, Americans are going to be forced to get Jeffersonian.

Let's just speculate for a moment on "getting Jeffersonian". You're talking a revolution. Civil War. Something the Armed Forces of this country are sworn to protect us against.

The majority of the people of this country think that Bush has done a good job, enough to elect not just him for 4 more years, but also people who think like him, and back his ideas up. Governors. Senators. Representatives. More than half the people in this country think that he has done, is doing, and/or will do a better job than "the other guy" would.

This country of sheep is not going to get "Jeffersonian". It isn't only the politicians who forgot who's supposed to run the store....

[Troubleshooter]

Originally Posted by OnyxCougar

Let's just speculate for a moment on "getting Jeffersonian". You're talking a revolution. Civil War. Something the Armed Forces of this country are sworn to protect us against.

The majority of the people of this country think that Bush has done a good job, enough to elect not just him for 4 more years, but also people who think like him, and back his ideas up. Governors. Senators. Representatives. More than half the people in this country think that he has done, is doing, and/or will do a better job than "the other guy" would.

This country of sheep is not going to get "Jeffersonian". It isn't only the politicians who forgot who's supposed to run the store....

It wasn't people that were in the majority who started this experiment.

[vsp]

Originally Posted by Troubleshooter

It wasn't people that were in the majority who started this experiment.

But it was people who had access to roughly the same level of weapon technology as their opposition. Joe Average is just SLIGHTLY outgunned when compared to our armed forces and law enforcement, and that's leaving out the heavy stuff.

[wolf]

Has everybody vented their drama yet?

I suppose that all of you thought that if Kerry won that Osama would have sent another video tape offering peace and friendship throughout the world, the sky would be bluer than blue (in honor of the democratic victory) and everybody would find a nice, shiny, new hybrid card in the driveway as a thank you gift for being such a good electorate.

It's the presidency. We do this every four years. The people chose. It's over. The country has survived this for the last 228 years. With the exception of a little uprising that got surprised in the mid-19th century, we've been revolution free, unlike MOST OF THE OTHER COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD.

Let it go, and get on with your lives.

Thank you.