Beef. . . Its What's For Dinner!

[Aliantha]

Originally Posted by Nirvana

I think that is more for mono gastric animals rather than ruminants but thanks for the insight.

That is correct. Generally used in poultry to help them digest their food easier, which in turn has enabled the body to spend more time growing and less time fighting a particular bacteria which is prevalent in the gut of a chicken.

[Undertoad]

It's not a big deal. You poked me over the vitamin C and potatoes thing, now I poked you back is all.

[HungLikeJesus]

You guys keep poking each other and people are going to start to talk.

[Nirvana]

Originally Posted by HungLikeJesus

You guys keep poking each other and people are going to start to talk.

Pix or it never happened!

[Shawnee123]

[TheDaVinciChode]

The amount of antibiotics shunted into these animals is sub-therapeutic, which isn't high, at all... The likelihood of much being left in the meat, post-slaughter, isn't that high, anyway... and the levels that MAY be within the meat, are far too low to actively effect us... Those used for non-medicinal purposes, within livestock, are also too low to actively effect any bacteria/diseases within them, which means it's not helping the bacteria/diseases become more resilient to said antibiotics.

I'm happy for my meat to be cheap... I enjoy eating a well balanced, nutritionally-sound diet, and, more than that - a completely natural diet... Vegetarianism and Vegan-ism are not natural, and are not as healthy as a well-balanced meat diet... The more expensive that meat becomes, the more malnourished we'll become, 'cept the richer amongst us, of course... So, until there's some other means of making meat cheap? I'm all for whatever they do, 'cos I refuse to eat a herbivore's diet, when I'm part of an omnivorous species, that requires many things from the meat that we evolved to digest.

(*Note: Anyone who's going to come here, and tell me that vegetarianism or vegan-ism are perfectly acceptable/natural forms of diet... Tell me, when was the last time you heard of someone's gut being unable to process, say, chicken, or beef? My girlfriend knows a lady who's unable to process most plant matter, including most grain... but she's more than able to process meats, still. We can become allergic to all manner of plant, but meat? No, sir. Why, my vegetarian and vegan friends, do you think that is? ... 'cos it's the most natural thing for us to eat. Our brains need it. Our bodies need it. Nothing you say or offer can change that fact... Well, other than pro-vegetarian/vegan biased websites with poorly researched pseudo-facts... but, well, to believe the crap they say, is like saying you believe George W. Bush was an intelligent man who absolutely KNEW that there were W.M.D in Iraq, or that there is a just reason for the war to STILL be going on, even to this day.)

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[jinx]

Uh, yeah, the supposed mechanics of antibiotic resistance isn't antibiotics in the meat you buy, it's the bacteria on feedlots being constantly exposed to the low-level antibiotics in the feed and water and being spread to the surrounding community via the workers.

Imagine a link to information on pig feedlots and MRSA here.

Also, chickens aren't called cattle in the US.

[HungLikeJesus]

They are on the Chicken Ranch.

[Nirvana]

And this is not the chicken or Pork thread!

[Shawnee123]

Hobos: the other red meat.

[TheDaVinciChode]

Originally Posted by Shawnee123

Hobos: the other red meat.

I'd give human a try. It's meant to taste like heavy-on-the-salt pork, right?

So... bacon?

[Shawnee123]

It tastes like chicken!

[skysidhe]

I am not sure why the USDA thinks it is ok to eat antibiotic laden beef but my water out of the tap is preferable to spring water.

Anything closest to its natural state is best imo but that's just me. I grew up eating our own slaughtered beef, chickens and drank well water. Not even the apples taste real anymore.

[morethanpretty]

Originally Posted by TheDaVinciChode

(*Note: Anyone who's going to come here, and tell me that vegetarianism or vegan-ism are perfectly acceptable/natural forms of diet... Tell me, when was the last time you heard of someone's gut being unable to process, say, chicken, or beef? My girlfriend knows a lady who's unable to process most plant matter, including most grain... but she's more than able to process meats, still. We can become allergic to all manner of plant, but meat? No, sir.....)

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Uhm, wrong, very wrong. I had a teach who was allergic to poultry, pork and fish. I have also known (perfectly healthy) vegetarians who would get extremely sick if they ate meat. It is completely likely that there is a number of people who are allergic to all manners of meat. There are plenty of plant-based proteins, which is the main nutrition we get from meat. The vegetarian Indian people I've also known didn't seem to be malnourished.
Although I think it is perfectly fine for meat to be affordable, Americans over-consume meat in major proportions that are not at all healthy for us.

[HungLikeJesus]

Healthy? That's one of those words whose definitions are so vague as to be meaningless. What does healthy mean to you? I've know of perfectly "healthy" people who have dropped down dead (e.g. Jim Fixx, Steve Prefontaine).