Cash for Clunkers Program - Page 4

monster · 07-29-2009, 10:56 PM

Well I'm not entirely sure which "side" I'm on either. hey, Shaw, when did you buy your car? One of the links i read said it was being backdated to 1st july....

Shawnee123 · 07-29-2009, 11:28 PM

Yeah, but my car's government-issued mpg was far better than I actually got. It's all based on year of car, and a few other statistics, not condition of car. (The Green Machine has been a trooper, running badly but getting me to work every day!) Otherwise, I would have waited. They look at combined mileage of highway and city mileage, based on agreed upon history, and I just missed the mark.

Although, I admit I haven't read the law as set in stone, but I'm guessing that part hasn't changed.

Oh, and I bought my car end of June. lol.

xoxoxoBruce · 07-30-2009, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by monster

Why does that make it bad? it's only very recently that manufacturers here have really been attempting to reduce the MPG, so a new car is likely to be more fuel efficient than a used one.

I think you meant increase.

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Also, surely, we're only guessing at the MPG of a used car. Which is fine if you're getting rid of a probable gas-guzzler, but to be certain you're replacing it with something significantly more efficient surely it needs to be new which a known mpg? I suspect if the scheme were opened up to used cars, there would be much shennanigans afoot.

They use the EPA estimated mileage that's been published for every make/model sold in the US for the last 35 years.

Seems to me, the family driving a 1980 land-yacht getting 12/14 mpg because they can't afford to trade up, and could with the help of this program buy a 2 or 3 year old car that gets 24/26 mpg, would be a good thing.

I suppose they are trying to reduce the manufacturers inventories and get the factories/employment moving, with the new car restriction. But I think they are missing an opportunity to get some of the real clunkers off the road.

monster · 07-30-2009, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Seems to me, the family driving a 1980 land-yacht getting 12/14 mpg because they can't afford to trade up, and could with the help of this program buy a 2 or 3 year old car that gets 24/26 mpg, would be a good thing.

What car did you have in mind here?

lumberjim · 07-30-2009, 04:08 PM

The damnfucking website has been crashing all day. you would not believe what you have to go thru.

you have to fill in all these fields that are pop up menus and then attach eleventy nine images of the documents you've scanned in.....and it won't goddamn save a claim until it's complete. It's crashed 3 times on me on this one application that i havent gotten in yet.

ive wasted 2 hours dicking around and gotten zero done.

its currently experiencing high traffic.

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ZenGum · 07-30-2009, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by lumberjim

its currently experiencing high traffic.

But is the traffic getting good mileage?

jinx · 07-30-2009, 09:56 PM

Jim says they've suspended it, think the money is all used up. He's still trying to get tonight's deals entered, but the site keeps crashing.

monster · 07-30-2009, 10:10 PM

ouch

Shawnee123 · 07-30-2009, 10:49 PM

See? A nightmare for those who have to deal with it. Why can't government consult small and successful businesses about how to think about all that stuff ahead of time, or don't expect success?

xoxoxoBruce · 07-31-2009, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by jinx

Jim says they've suspended it, think the money is all used up. He's still trying to get tonight's deals entered, but the site keeps crashing.

No, the money isn't used up. Because the traffic is so heavy the site keeps crashing, they suspended it until they can figure out how to do it.

xoxoxoBruce · 07-31-2009, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by monster

What car did you have in mind here?

None in particular, just an example why used cars should be included, even it they stipulate a larger gain for them to qualify.

lumberjim · 07-31-2009, 02:52 AM

I stayed at work until 2 am scanning files and organizing the information i need to enter 10 of the 21 claims we have.....

I tried intermittently to enter claims, but was invariable frustrated by 505 internal server errors, unexpeted errors, time outs and freezing windows. i was able to submit one claim a few minutes ago when i got home....at 3:20 am.......but now ....when i log back in ....i see this:::

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We are currently experiencing a high volume of activity. Please try again in thirty minutes.

it's 3:51 am my time.....wtf

xoxoxoBruce · 07-31-2009, 02:59 AM

They also said all deals that were written before 11 pm last night would be honored.

xoxoxoBruce · 07-31-2009, 11:16 AM

The noon news, now says the money is almost gone, whereas the 11pm news last night said no. I wonder if they really know, with the computers jammed up?

TheMercenary · 07-31-2009, 11:45 AM

I fear this may go the way of the other money in the Stimulus Bill. For example there were a bunch of grant money just given out for police departments. Many hired new cops. To bad the money is only for 3 years. After that the money will not be available anymore without more repeat spending, i.e. more money from the government largesse. Then what do all these police departments do? How about all the road projects that take years to complete? What happens when those monies run out?

07-29-2009, 10:56 PM	#46
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	Well I'm not entirely sure which "side" I'm on either. hey, Shaw, when did you buy your car? One of the links i read said it was being backdated to 1st july.... __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

07-29-2009, 11:28 PM	#47
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	Yeah, but my car's government-issued mpg was far better than I actually got. It's all based on year of car, and a few other statistics, not condition of car. (The Green Machine has been a trooper, running badly but getting me to work every day!) Otherwise, I would have waited. They look at combined mileage of highway and city mileage, based on agreed upon history, and I just missed the mark. Although, I admit I haven't read the law as set in stone, but I'm guessing that part hasn't changed. Oh, and I bought my car end of June. lol. __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

07-30-2009, 04:08 PM	#50
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	The damnfucking website has been crashing all day. you would not believe what you have to go thru. you have to fill in all these fields that are pop up menus and then attach eleventy nine images of the documents you've scanned in.....and it won't goddamn save a claim until it's complete. It's crashed 3 times on me on this one application that i havent gotten in yet. ive wasted 2 hours dicking around and gotten zero done. its currently experiencing high traffic. E A D __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

07-30-2009, 09:56 PM	#52
jinx Come on, cat. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: general vicinity of Philadelphia area Posts: 7,013	Jim says they've suspended it, think the money is all used up. He's still trying to get tonight's deals entered, but the site keeps crashing. __________________ Crying won't help you, praying won't do you no good.

07-30-2009, 10:10 PM	#53
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	ouch __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

07-30-2009, 10:49 PM	#54
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	See? A nightmare for those who have to deal with it. Why can't government consult small and successful businesses about how to think about all that stuff ahead of time, or don't expect success? __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

07-31-2009, 02:59 AM	#58
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	They also said all deals that were written before 11 pm last night would be honored. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

07-31-2009, 11:16 AM	#59
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	The noon news, now says the money is almost gone, whereas the 11pm news last night said no. I wonder if they really know, with the computers jammed up? __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

07-31-2009, 11:45 AM	#60
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	I fear this may go the way of the other money in the Stimulus Bill. For example there were a bunch of grant money just given out for police departments. Many hired new cops. To bad the money is only for 3 years. After that the money will not be available anymore without more repeat spending, i.e. more money from the government largesse. Then what do all these police departments do? How about all the road projects that take years to complete? What happens when those monies run out? __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

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