93 Year Old WWII Vet Freezes to Death at Home...

[monster]

but they aren't more important than the 93yo, so how come obama is not responsible for him too?

[piercehawkeye45]

Who said he wasn't?



To be serous. In the way that our social structure is set up, very nomadic and not very communal, it becomes very tough for people who can not look out for themselves. In other cultures, this person would be living with family and try to find of a homeless Somali.

Point is that our way of life has both positive and negative aspects. This is one negative aspect and when we live in a society that does not have many safety nets for the old and alone, incidents like this will happen. It is sad and I believe we should work to avoid these situations on a reasonable level, but unless we decide to change our culture altogether, events like these are inevitable.

[monster]

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

In other cultures, this person would be living with family and try to find of a homeless Somali..

eh?

I ran this through babelfish and it didn't make sense in any language.

[piercehawkeye45]

Originally Posted by monster

eh?

I ran this through babelfish and it didn't make sense in any language.

It is extremely rare to find a homeless Somali because mosques will provide shelter for any Muslim. Our culture doesn't provide as much shelter for the homeless as different cultures do (in reasonable amounts of course). Since our culture differs in this way, one negative aspect is that people can easily get left out in the cold.

The point is that very few resources go into taking care of the homeless because of how our culture works. The same can be said about 93 year old men, especially if they are old pricks.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

It is extremely rare to find a homeless Somali because mosques will provide shelter for any Muslim. Our culture doesn't provide as much shelter for the homeless as different cultures do (in reasonable amounts of course). Since our culture differs in this way, one negative aspect is that people can easily get left out in the cold.

The point is that very few resources go into taking care of the homeless because of how our culture works. The same can be said about 93 year old men, especially if they are old pricks.

No comparison. Really, I hear this all the time. It does not matter if it is economics, military issues, politics, etc. There is no way you can compare our society to many of the European and Middle Eastern societies because of many things, and I know that you know all of this. If you are going to compare our society to any other you could use China and Russia based on diversity and demographics alone, but even those cannot compare. I find it funny how people want to compare our healthcare system to those that are about 1/50th the size of ours as one example. The list is endless of poor comparisons. If anyone doubts this hit me up with your best example.

[piercehawkeye45]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

No comparison. Really, I hear this all the time. It does not matter if it is economics, military issues, politics, etc. There is no way you can compare our society to many of the European and Middle Eastern societies because of many things, and I know that you know all of this. If you are going to compare our society to any other you could use China and Russia based on diversity and demographics alone, but even those cannot compare. I find it funny how people want to compare our healthcare system to those that are about 1/50th the size of ours as one example. The list is endless of poor comparisons. If anyone doubts this hit me up with your best example.

Reread my post and the point of my post. I never compared economics, military issues, politics, or health benefits. In fact, you will find out that we are making the same exact point.

[Undertoad]

Maybe the dude didn't have anybody to look after him because he was a prick.

Come on, it's possible

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

Maybe the dude didn't have anybody to look after him because he was a prick.

Come on, it's possible

I am so sorry to the dudes family but that was a

[Aliantha]

Yes, but do pricks deserve to freeze to death?

[HungLikeJesus]

What do you mean by "our culture"? Do we have only one?

[piercehawkeye45]

Originally Posted by HungLikeJesus

What do you mean by "our culture"? Do we have only one?

I do not mean to say American culture is completely homogeneous, which is obviously false but I am generalizing. We as Americans do share a general culture, but that doesn't mean their aren't variations or subcultures between them. "Rural culture", "suburban culture", and even "urban culture", while different, share the same basic values as opposed to Arab culture, where the value system is much different.

It would be like commenting on the American political spectrum. Yes, there are Republicans and Democrats and they do have their differences but those differences are very minisual compared to Fuedalism, Fascism, Monarchism, or communism. Both Democrats and Republicans stem from the same basic values while monarchy and fuedalism stemed from different values, hence why they are so different and would never be accepted by Americans.

[wolf]

I'm still trying to figure out why we should take care of the homeless ...

Pennsylvania has an emergency heating assistance program for low income individuals and families (LiHEAP), and also won't shut you off when there's code blue or code red type weather going on.

[monster]

oh, ok, thanks, goddit now. More punctuation preferred (not that I would have got it then either, but I at least wouldn't have wasting time wondering how a person living with their family would be helped by a finding a homeless Somali.... )

[Aliantha]

Merc, by your reasoning then no other culture or economy or blah blah can be compared to that of the US considering the situation.

I think it's naive to think that lessons can't be learned from others who are perhaps not so powerful or established or wealthy.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Aliantha

Merc, by your reasoning then no other culture or economy or blah blah can be compared to that of the US considering the situation.

I think it's naive to think that lessons can't be learned from others who are perhaps not so powerful or established or wealthy.

My point is the comparisons are not so easily transferable. That is a fact.