Brit doctors: don't treat people who make bad choices or get old - Page 4

ZenGum · 01-30-2008, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by bbro

Why is this in the doctor thread??

Hold the scalpel in your right hand, the forceps in your left.

Better?

bbro · 01-31-2008, 08:53 AM

HA, yes, much better. Thanks Z.

Flint · 02-07-2008, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

Meanwhile, this one case sparks ethical seminars and we all get a chance to put the magnifying glass on it.

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Due to over-capacity audience yesterday and by request of numerous employees and physicians, this seminar will be offered again on __________, 2008 at 12 noon. Some physicians who attended yesterday indicated that Directors and Vice Presidents would benefit significantly from hearing the presentation. Additionally, yesterday a physician extended an invitation to The Center for Healthcare Ethics to present this to the greater __________ business community. To Assure a Seat, Register Immediately.

Undertoad · 08-07-2008, 08:23 AM

Brit docs: £24,000 is too much for life-saving kidney medication

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Patient groups said the decision, announced today by the National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence (Nice), would condemn many sufferers of kidney cancer to an "early death".

The four prohibited medicines include Sutent, which can prolong life in kidney cancer patients by up to two years. The draft guidance also rejects Avastin, Nexavar and Torisel.

Nice said the drugs were too expensive, at about £24,000 a year per patient, for the benefits they offered and would mean the health service was less able to afford more cost-effective drugs for other illnesses.

classicman · 08-07-2008, 11:20 AM

Yeah Universal Healthcare - can I have some too???

lookout123 · 08-07-2008, 11:50 AM

but what about all the americans who have no access to medical care? what about them? think of the children you heartless bastards!

HungLikeJesus · 08-07-2008, 11:56 AM

They're trying to do the most good with the money they have. I think it makes perfect sense. Then again, I don't have kidney cancer.

monster · 08-07-2008, 10:56 PM

they're not denying the drugs to people who have private health insurance, are they? A rich Brit has the same options as a rich American y'all. It's just that poor and medium-level Brits sometimes also get a bite at the cherry. Just not in this case. I don't hear you whining that this isn't available to the homeless bums here.......

xoxoxoBruce · 08-07-2008, 11:06 PM

That's because I ban the homeless bums. :p

monster · 08-07-2008, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

That's because I ban the homeless bums. :p

I heard you did things to them... is ban a new euphemism for naaaasty things?

xoxoxoBruce · 08-07-2008, 11:19 PM

If they don't find the bodies, who cares?

TheMercenary · 08-08-2008, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by HungLikeJesus

They're trying to do the most good with the money they have. I think it makes perfect sense. Then again, I don't have kidney cancer.

I have no problem with that and if it is the way we go here in the US the public will get just what they asked for. But knowing the current users of our medicaid system all to well, it will never be enough. Some will win. Some will lose. It is easy to compare health system that serve similar size populations. The problem is that none of the current universal health programs that are held up as standards of success serve populations of 31 million people.

HungLikeJesus · 08-08-2008, 08:28 AM

I think you left off a zero there, Merc.

Undertoad · 08-08-2008, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by monster

It's just that poor and medium-level Brits sometimes also get a bite at the cherry. Just not in this case. I don't hear you whining that this isn't available to the homeless bums here.......

It is available to the homeless bums here. That's Medicaid.

TheMercenary · 08-08-2008, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by HungLikeJesus

I think you left off a zero there, Merc.

Oops.

08-07-2008, 11:20 AM	#50
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Yeah Universal Healthcare - can I have some too??? __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

08-07-2008, 11:50 AM	#51
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	but what about all the americans who have no access to medical care? what about them? think of the children you heartless bastards! __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

08-07-2008, 11:56 AM	#52
HungLikeJesus Only looks like a disaster tourist Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: above 7,000 feet Posts: 7,208	They're trying to do the most good with the money they have. I think it makes perfect sense. Then again, I don't have kidney cancer. __________________ Keep Your Bodies Off My Lawn SteveDallas's Random Thread Picker.

08-07-2008, 10:56 PM	#53
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	they're not denying the drugs to people who have private health insurance, are they? A rich Brit has the same options as a rich American y'all. It's just that poor and medium-level Brits sometimes also get a bite at the cherry. Just not in this case. I don't hear you whining that this isn't available to the homeless bums here....... __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

08-07-2008, 11:06 PM	#54
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	That's because I ban the homeless bums. :p __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

01-31-2008, 08:53 AM	#47
bbro Insert witty comment here Join Date: May 2004 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 2,182	HA, yes, much better. Thanks Z.

08-07-2008, 11:19 PM	#56
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	If they don't find the bodies, who cares? __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

08-08-2008, 08:28 AM	#58
HungLikeJesus Only looks like a disaster tourist Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: above 7,000 feet Posts: 7,208	I think you left off a zero there, Merc. __________________ Keep Your Bodies Off My Lawn SteveDallas's Random Thread Picker.

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