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Old 05-13-2007, 12:18 PM   #46
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No worries: if it did shift that way, the parties would shift too.
Very slowly if it ever does. I have become very skeptical of how far the parties are allowed to go without going down the drain.
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Old 05-13-2007, 12:56 PM   #47
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Probably pretty far as long as we're all going down the drain together. When some are and some are not, going down the drain, resentment causes trouble.
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Old 05-13-2007, 02:20 PM   #48
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The parties change slowly because the electorate changes slowly.
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Old 05-13-2007, 04:06 PM   #49
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BTW, that's a stretch if you're interpreting that to mean I suggested to "disarm the populace".
It was a general statement. Although you have mentioned that you think people should voluntarily disarm themselves, so I'm not sure why you're taking exception to what I said.
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Old 05-13-2007, 08:32 PM   #50
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Because he goes to great lengths to plan a thread that will ultimately prove him right, so when it doesn't, he always gets pissy.
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Old 05-13-2007, 09:28 PM   #51
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The revolution will be a failure... It'll last until late evening, then will be ruined when American Idol comes on and everyone goes home.
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Old 05-13-2007, 09:34 PM   #52
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I've never watch American Idol. Too busy being revolting.
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Old 05-14-2007, 06:11 AM   #53
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hmmm... so the key is to knock out the cable. Actually, tv is probably all that's holding the country together right now.
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Old 05-15-2007, 08:36 AM   #54
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In this country we change stuff through elections. The time to worry is when they cancel the elections.
The 2000 election wasn't "cancelled", but many people feel it was "stolen". Shouldn't there have been more outrage?
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Old 05-15-2007, 08:37 AM   #55
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hmmm... so the key is to knock out the cable. Actually, tv is probably all that's holding the country together right now.
Take out the TV and the internet, and all hell will break loose.
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Old 05-15-2007, 04:15 PM   #56
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yes, there should have been outrage, personally I was waiting for someone to stand up and say 'hey! what the fuck?!?!'.. then again maybe that's the problem.. no one is willing to be that person.
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Old 05-15-2007, 05:10 PM   #57
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The 2000 election wasn't "cancelled", but many people feel it was "stolen". Shouldn't there have been more outrage?
I could not have been more outraged.
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Old 05-15-2007, 06:49 PM   #58
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There was a process. It was followed. Nobody was outraged that the process wasn't followed, they were outraged at the result.

Turn the result around and they wouldn't be outraged = this thread isn't about them.

Outrage -> they posted in an internet forum and told their friends it was outrageous = not really the kind of meaningful change-producing outrage we are talking about.
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Old 05-18-2007, 02:50 PM   #59
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heh... yeah. still sad though.. when there are riots over trains running on time in the world, yet we sit here and keep quiet. then again I suppose it boils down to the simple fact that we are pretty well off.. we don't generally have to worry about food and shelter.. gives a person time to worry about 'bigger' issues. personally I am thankful to have a job, food and a place to live.
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Old 05-18-2007, 06:27 PM   #60
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