Thank you, America! - Page 4

DanaC · 11-09-2006, 05:07 PM

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riiight. You love us.

You are mistaking my disdain for rightwingers as a disdain for Americans.

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They = terrorists.

Terrorists cause terror, they put people in fear. Shock and Awe caused fear in Iraq. Iraq has never caused fear in America or Britain.

Aliantha · 11-09-2006, 05:44 PM

I think this thread has become nothing more than a slanging match between usually reasonable people.

Get a grip you lot.

All DanaC was trying to say was thankyou for doing what she was unable to do because she's not a US citizen. I'd like to say I'm happy with the outcome of the recent elections and it's a credit to the majority of US citizens.

As has been discussed in another thread recently, citizens of the world at large are affected by internal US politics. That's why there's interest in your elections and that's why others like to comment.

That's it.

9th Engineer · 11-09-2006, 07:03 PM

I'm waiting for other shoe to drop once Americans find out that the Dems are as clueless about all this as the Reps. ("But it we were told it would all get better once the Republicans left office and we voted for the Dems! Why oh why!")

Elspode · 11-09-2006, 07:06 PM

I don't think any reasonable person believes the Dems will cure all the ills. I think most people really just figured that the Republicans had their turn, and it is now time to bring in the guys on the bench.

Politics and social upheaval are a pendulum, not a massif. They swing from one side to the other over time, and do not remain embedded and immovable. The pendulum has reached its rightmost extreme, and will now swing back to the left for awhile. Lather, rinse, repeat.

BigV · 11-09-2006, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 9th Engineer

I'm waiting for other shoe to drop once Americans find out that the Dems are as clueless about all this as the Reps. ("But it we were told it would all get better once the Republicans left office and we voted for the Dems! Why oh why!")

No, no, no, no... It was the PRESIDENT, in "campaign mode" who said a vote for the Democrats was a vote for defeat. sheesh. stop drinkin the kool aid, 'k?

9th Engineer · 11-09-2006, 07:21 PM

I thought that was assinine when that was used then as well, k? I was commenting more on the idea that people I talk to seem to believe that if the Reps are kicked out of office then everything will be peachy.

Hippikos · 11-10-2006, 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha

I think this thread has become nothing more than a slanging match between usually reasonable people.

Get a grip you lot.

All DanaC was trying to say was thankyou for doing what she was unable to do because she's not a US citizen. I'd like to say I'm happy with the outcome of the recent elections and it's a credit to the majority of US citizens.

As has been discussed in another thread recently, citizens of the world at large are affected by internal US politics. That's why there's interest in your elections and that's why others like to comment.

That's it.

Hear, hear! Never a truer word was said.

BigV · 11-09-2006, 07:40 PM

Those people are deluded.

Government can do good, although some will say I'm deluded for saying so. The principal difference I see just now is that Democratic majorities permit a different set of ideas, a different agenda. I hope the good that can come will be in the form of a different method in Iraq. The previous "plan"--"victory over terrorists" was not working. It seemed clear to me that the decision to "stay the course" had a large component of ... what? Shame? Fear of appearing weak by confessing the obvious failure of the "plan".

I believe there's more relief to GWB's mind than he's willing to display, in that now he can change and save some face. That's it. There was a pathological fear of losing *face* that prevented some legitimate changes. Now he has some cover--I eagerly anticipate some action.

Aliantha · 11-09-2006, 07:53 PM

I don't think anyone believes a change of government is a quick fix or that all the people will be happy once it's done.

Don't mistake happiness at a chance for change for delusion.

Urbane Guerrilla · 11-09-2006, 10:41 PM

The Democratic Party, lacking (and how!) a plan to win the war of its own, will have to execute the "Republican plan" they've been irresponsibly trying to resist and undermine these past several years.

Who wants to bet a nickel they'll still eff it right up and lose the war to a bunch of hemipygian Islamofascists?

Hippikos · 11-10-2006, 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

The Democratic Party, lacking (and how!) a plan to win the war of its own, will have to execute the "Republican plan" they've been irresponsibly trying to resist and undermine these past several years.

Who wants to bet a nickel they'll still eff it right up and lose the war to a bunch of hemipygian Islamofascists?

Which Republican "Plan" will win the war? The only plan left is to get out of there, pronto!

Aliantha · 11-09-2006, 10:49 PM

Perhaps they'll conclude the conflict and develop a plan to actually find Bin Laden.

Urbane Guerrilla · 11-09-2006, 11:04 PM

Getting bin Laden is more of a symbolic "nice-to-have," even if it's just getting him with an Atomic Wedgie w/a Half Twist. The defeat and discrediting of the entire terrorist impulse is of more importance, and this is not embodied in just one tall Saudi that the Saudis don't want back.

DanaC · 11-10-2006, 01:58 AM

Aliantha, I didn't start this thread or thank America. I just jumped in when someone made a comment about fighting Iraqis over there rather than on American soil. That somehow equates to my not understanding or caring about the potential dangers faced by America. I just don't think America faced/s a threat from that particular quarter.

DanaC · 11-10-2006, 08:32 AM

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I do so humbly apologize you arrogant fuck.

Anyone who can post six posts in a row can answer questions, don't you think? Oh! Don't answer that! You're far too busy.

ahuh.....*backs slowly out the room*

11-09-2006, 05:44 PM	#2
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	I think this thread has become nothing more than a slanging match between usually reasonable people. Get a grip you lot. All DanaC was trying to say was thankyou for doing what she was unable to do because she's not a US citizen. I'd like to say I'm happy with the outcome of the recent elections and it's a credit to the majority of US citizens. As has been discussed in another thread recently, citizens of the world at large are affected by internal US politics. That's why there's interest in your elections and that's why others like to comment. That's it. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

11-09-2006, 07:03 PM	#3
9th Engineer Bioengineer and aspiring lawer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 872	I'm waiting for other shoe to drop once Americans find out that the Dems are as clueless about all this as the Reps. ("But it we were told it would all get better once the Republicans left office and we voted for the Dems! Why oh why!") __________________ The most valuable renewable resource is stupidity.

11-09-2006, 07:06 PM	#4
Elspode When Do I Get Virtual Unreality? Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Raytown, Missouri Posts: 12,719	I don't think any reasonable person believes the Dems will cure all the ills. I think most people really just figured that the Republicans had their turn, and it is now time to bring in the guys on the bench. Politics and social upheaval are a pendulum, not a massif. They swing from one side to the other over time, and do not remain embedded and immovable. The pendulum has reached its rightmost extreme, and will now swing back to the left for awhile. Lather, rinse, repeat. __________________ "To those of you who are wearing ties, I think my dad would appreciate it if you took them off." - Robert Moog

11-09-2006, 07:21 PM	#6
9th Engineer Bioengineer and aspiring lawer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 872	I thought that was assinine when that was used then as well, k? I was commenting more on the idea that people I talk to seem to believe that if the Reps are kicked out of office then everything will be peachy. __________________ The most valuable renewable resource is stupidity.

11-09-2006, 07:40 PM	#8
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	Those people are deluded. Government can do good, although some will say I'm deluded for saying so. The principal difference I see just now is that Democratic majorities permit a different set of ideas, a different agenda. I hope the good that can come will be in the form of a different method in Iraq. The previous "plan"--"victory over terrorists" was not working. It seemed clear to me that the decision to "stay the course" had a large component of ... what? Shame? Fear of appearing weak by confessing the obvious failure of the "plan". I believe there's more relief to GWB's mind than he's willing to display, in that now he can change and save some face. That's it. There was a pathological fear of losing face that prevented some legitimate changes. Now he has some cover--I eagerly anticipate some action. __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.

11-09-2006, 07:53 PM	#9
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	I don't think anyone believes a change of government is a quick fix or that all the people will be happy once it's done. Don't mistake happiness at a chance for change for delusion. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

11-09-2006, 10:41 PM	#10
Urbane Guerrilla Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,674	The Democratic Party, lacking (and how!) a plan to win the war of its own, will have to execute the "Republican plan" they've been irresponsibly trying to resist and undermine these past several years. Who wants to bet a nickel they'll still eff it right up and lose the war to a bunch of hemipygian Islamofascists? __________________ Wanna stop school shootings? End Gun-Free Zones, of course.

11-09-2006, 10:49 PM	#12
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	Perhaps they'll conclude the conflict and develop a plan to actually find Bin Laden. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

11-09-2006, 11:04 PM	#13
Urbane Guerrilla Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,674	Getting bin Laden is more of a symbolic "nice-to-have," even if it's just getting him with an Atomic Wedgie w/a Half Twist. The defeat and discrediting of the entire terrorist impulse is of more importance, and this is not embodied in just one tall Saudi that the Saudis don't want back. __________________ Wanna stop school shootings? End Gun-Free Zones, of course.

11-10-2006, 01:58 AM	#14
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	Aliantha, I didn't start this thread or thank America. I just jumped in when someone made a comment about fighting Iraqis over there rather than on American soil. That somehow equates to my not understanding or caring about the potential dangers faced by America. I just don't think America faced/s a threat from that particular quarter.

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