Hypocritical USA haters in Levis... - Page 4

Ibby · 09-24-2006, 03:08 PM

excellent, rich. Talk to tw, he may even let you take over writing the UG persona for a while.

richlevy · 09-24-2006, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Ibram

excellent, rich. Talk to tw, he may even let you take over writing the UG persona for a while.

Thanks. The only problem I have is that I had a typographical error with the word 'Soldier'. UG's posts do not have misspelling or typographical errors.

My muse in the writing was the scene in "Blues Brothers" where Henry Gibson is sitting in uniform painting a statue of an eagle.

Ibby · 09-24-2006, 03:46 PM

hahahahha, yes! Go Blues Brothers!
that movie comes on here, on tv, about once a week.

warch · 09-25-2006, 10:14 AM

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I have no problem with allies, as long as they are truly allies and not just using us while hating us and undermining our interests every chance they get.

I'm afraid the smart course is that we must assume that everyone is using everyone to some extent. As we do. The search for unconditional love in politics will break your heart. And If believe you find it, it eventually leads to more bad than good.

09-25-2006, 10:45 AM

"Unconditional" and "love" never enter into it. It is simply a matter of joint interests.

warch · 09-25-2006, 11:38 AM

You mention that true allies dont use or hate us. So conditions and love entered into your statement. But I agree, it is a matter of joint interests and it is very romantic to think that allies could ever be solidly, enduringly "true".

xoxoxoBruce · 09-25-2006, 09:49 PM

I guess you haven't seen the clip of Bush and Blair singing, "I want to take you to a gay bar".

09-26-2006, 12:31 AM

The thing is, if you hate an organization or company, you hate what they do or what they stand for, you don't support them, borrow from them, allow their agents into your home or property, etc. It is that simple.

Ibby · 09-26-2006, 04:00 AM

No, it's not that simple, because that isn't how things work.

Flint · 09-26-2006, 08:07 AM

I demand that it may or may not be "that simple" !!! It's either one or the other, damnit !!! :::deflects incoming rebuttals:::

Hippikos · 09-26-2006, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by richlevy

You see, this is the quality stuff that makes me think UG isn't 'real'. It's wonderful prose, egocentric bordering on narcissist. It reminds me of the bad fiction contest they hold each year in honor of the guy who first came up with "It was a dark and stormy night". Using 'grok' was brilliant since a Heinlein reference is absolutely necessary in a post from a modern age warrior (I prefer Kipling). Still, UG didn't quite hit that evocative tone that's really needed. Let me try to punch it up a little.

How's that?

Love that Rich. Haven't ever seen the word "grok" ever during my travels on various forums the last 7 years until our demi-god UG used it here. Guess where my preference lies...

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The truly brave who have taken up the noble skill of martial arts, beholding the brave oppressed with odds, are touched with a desire to shield and read the Soldier of Fortune for at least 10 years.
The Urban Teacher --a mixture of wild beasts and demi-gods is he--now furious as the sweeping wave, now moved with pity; even as sometimes nods the rugged tree unto the summer wind, compassion breathes along the savage mind to bring you earthling into a world where the lost pleiad seen no more below.

09-26-2006, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Ibram

No, it's not that simple, because that isn't how things work.

So, your ethics don't dictate your actions... *note to self, "remain safe distance from Ibram"*

warch · 09-26-2006, 06:04 PM

Isolationist. ; )

richlevy · 09-26-2006, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Hippikos

Love that Rich. Haven't ever seen the word "grok" ever during my travels on various forums the last 7 years until our demi-god UG used it here. Guess where my preference lies...

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The truly brave who have taken up the noble skill of martial arts, beholding the brave oppressed with odds, are touched with a desire to shield and read the Soldier of Fortune for at least 10 years.
The Urban Teacher --a mixture of wild beasts and demi-gods is he--now furious as the sweeping wave, now moved with pity; even as sometimes nods the rugged tree unto the summer wind, compassion breathes along the savage mind to bring you earthling into a world where the lost pleiad seen no more below.

Wow, that was a William S. Burroughs moment.

Ibby · 09-26-2006, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by rkzenrage

So, your ethics don't dictate your actions... *note to self, "remain safe distance from Ibram"*

hey, I'm not saying thats not how it SHOULD work or that its not how I would do things. I'm just saying, thats not how international politics work. I, however, am not a country, and so I dont give a shit for how international politics work, I'll do things my way, how I see fit.

09-24-2006, 03:08 PM	#46
Ibby erika Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: "the high up north" Posts: 6,127	excellent, rich. Talk to tw, he may even let you take over writing the UG persona for a while. __________________ not really back, you didn't see me, i was never here shhhhhh

09-24-2006, 03:46 PM	#48
Ibby erika Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: "the high up north" Posts: 6,127	hahahahha, yes! Go Blues Brothers! that movie comes on here, on tv, about once a week. __________________ not really back, you didn't see me, i was never here shhhhhh

09-25-2006, 09:49 PM	#52
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	I guess you haven't seen the clip of Bush and Blair singing, "I want to take you to a gay bar". __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

09-26-2006, 04:00 AM	#54
Ibby erika Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: "the high up north" Posts: 6,127	No, it's not that simple, because that isn't how things work. __________________ not really back, you didn't see me, i was never here shhhhhh

09-26-2006, 08:07 AM	#55
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	I demand that it may or may not be "that simple" !!! It's either one or the other, damnit !!! :::deflects incoming rebuttals::: __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

09-25-2006, 10:45 AM	#50
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	"Unconditional" and "love" never enter into it. It is simply a matter of joint interests.

09-25-2006, 11:38 AM	#51
warch lurkin old school Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,796	You mention that true allies dont use or hate us. So conditions and love entered into your statement. But I agree, it is a matter of joint interests and it is very romantic to think that allies could ever be solidly, enduringly "true".

09-26-2006, 12:31 AM	#53
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	The thing is, if you hate an organization or company, you hate what they do or what they stand for, you don't support them, borrow from them, allow their agents into your home or property, etc. It is that simple.

09-26-2006, 06:04 PM	#58
warch lurkin old school Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,796	Isolationist. ; )

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