Weight-Loss Thread

[jinx]

Soy beans, steamed and salted.

I am totally agreed with you.
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[Dagney]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

Depends how much. Uncooked rice is 150 cals per 1/4 cup and generally doubles, so one "serving" of rice is generally 300 cals or 6 pts. The chicken is apx 1 pt per ounce so maybe 4. These veggies are free and I don't know about edemame at all.

If I remember correctly - Edemame are 1 point. (Soybeans)

And good to get that 'crunch' you crave sometimes.

[seakdivers]

I am at that "beginning of the diet" stage where you feel like you have poofed up more than anything else. I've been drinking tons of water, and I have not had a single bread related item in a week, but I feel gross. I think my body is going into survival mode & storing what it can.

I had a scrambled egg for breakfast
4 oz grilled steak & 1/2 tomato for lunch
1/2 cup low fat cottage cheese for a snack
1 tortilla-free taco for dinner

I still haven't bought a scale yet, but I know that I feel better.

[Undertoad]

Yabbut see the thing is, if you don't eat enough your metabolism will in fact slow down, making it harder to lose weight, and that's not enough...

[lumberjim]

dinner was a turkey hoagie with cheese
1 buffalo wing, and a couple bites of jinx's cheesesteak.

oink oink

i'm on my 3rd captain and diet canada dry.

going for a walk in a moment ( 1.5 mi.)

[lumberjim]

Originally Posted by lumberjim

going for a walk in a moment ( 1.5 mi.)

[Tonchi]

I would like to bring up a diet which is avocated by the medical columnist in our newspaper. It is so simple and so easy that you will not understand why you didn't do it before.

Dr. Peter H. Gott says ALL you need to do is completely eliminate all flour and refined sugar from your food intake. Easy to remember, easy enough when you get used to thinking that way. You don't count calories, carbs, grams, fats, or colored flash cards, you simply do not pick up anything with flour or refined sugar in it. Read the label if you are not sure, but you KNOW the bagels, turkey dressing, pasta, twinkies, and chocolate cake are out, but the cream cheese and fruit juice is not, UNLESS it has been sweetened. The breakfast cereal and french fries are iffy, better read the label to be sure no WHEAT is in it. It seems that wheat is one of the most damaging things we eat, it is really not digestible or beneficial, and many of us are just plain allergic to it and do not even realize why our bodies are bloated all the time when this ingredient is in almost everything we are eating during the day.

People have been writing in to Dr. Gott for years to tell their stories, how the weight just fell off them once they got their mind adjusted to skipping those two ingredients. If I can find a url link to his information, I will post it here.

[Tonchi]

Dr. Gott does not seem to have an online column. So I copied some pertinent letters from several newspapers which Google found:



DEAR DR. GOTT: For the second time, I am trying your "no flour, no sugar" diet. I eat no refined sugar, flour products or potatoes.

It isn't working. My weight has stabilized at 176. Also, my brother has not had success with your diet.

Could it be that we are not drinking enough water?

DEAR READER: No weight-loss diet guarantees results. In patients with genetically determined obesity, for example, special provisions — such as stricter dieting — may be necessary.

Based on the thousands of letters I have received from satisfied patients who have had success with my "no flour, no sugar" diet, I continue to encourage its use because it is overwhelmingly effective, inexpensive and easy to follow. (Water consumption is a matter of preference; it should not affect your weight.) I see from your letter that you avoid refined sugar. This is not enough. No sugar means just that. Along with cane sugar, you must avoid corn syrup (a commercial sweetener), maple syrup, molasses and other sweets. Milk sugar (lactose) and fruit sugar (fructose) are OK.

In addition, potatoes contain neither flour nor sugar — so why restrict them?

If you choose to follow my diet, act like a lawyer. Pick out (and avoid) the products with flour and sugar by reading labels. If the edibles contain flour, it is a "no-no." If, in contrast, it contains — for example — cornmeal, rice or wheat germ, it is acceptable.



DEAR DR. GOTT: You know, you make it sound so easy to just stop eating flour and sugar. Have you ever been morbidly obese? It isn't as easy as just stopping eating. If you do, it doesn't always work as well as you say. Ever since my mother saw your column, she's like, "You can do it if you want to." Thanks a lot.

DEAR READER: Your mother is correct: you can do anything if you want to. Perhaps this realization, if you accept it, could make a huge difference in your future health. For sure, no one can do it for you, so if you tend to blame other people for your lack of success, quit. Admit your obesity and deal with it.

Do some people suffer from genetic overweight? Yes. Are they likely to lose weight simply by dieting? No. Are they often helped by following a reasonable and inexpensive diet? Yes — for while. Could they drop a few pounds and keep them off? Absolutely. While my "no flour, no sugar" diet seems very easy to follow, some patients have a problem with it because of genetic factors. In such instances, I recommend a recommitment to the diet plan, or any other weight-loss program, with close medical supervision.

To give you related information, I am sending you a copy of my Health Report "Losing Weight," which includes my "no flour, no sugar" diet. Other readers who would like a copy should send a long, self-addressed, stamped envelope and $2 to Newsletter, P.O. Box 167, Wickliffe, OH 44092. Be sure to mention the title.

[Ibby]

I read in... I think it was the Washington Post that a new, very good diet idea is to simply eat exactly what you want. Before you put something in your mouth (heh) ask yourself, "Do I reeeeeeally want this?" if the answer is no, then don't eat it. Your body knows what it needs, 90-odd percent of the time. If you only eat what you reeally want, then you're good to go.

Hm, I think I want to start eating a little better - a little less junk, a little more healthy stuff. Not so much for weight as for health, but I'm gonna post here anyway, kay? Kay.

Breakfast - Bagel with cream cheese, Nestea.

Lunch - Two slices of cheese pizza with parmesan cheese, no drink.

I'll probably drink a root beer when I get home, and eat a bowl of tostidos and salsa con queso, or maybe make a bowl of spaghetti and parmesan.


New eating habits start tomorrow. I hope.

[Trilby]

I like this no flour, no sugar idea. Esp. as it allows me to have milk and OJ (two things I really, reeeeeeeally missed on Atkins)---and, you get potatoes, too! I shall try.

Today--egg, small piece of canadian bacon for breakfast. Lj-how can you drink and then GO FOR A WALK? Ugh!

[Kitsune]

Originally Posted by Brianna

I like this no flour, no sugar idea.

Someone has to explain to me why flour, something mankind has consumed for thousands of years, is suddenly off-limits. Same with sugar. I'm going to continue baking bread and enjoying it.

Really -- no milk, no OJ? These fad diets have gone mad!

Eat less, exercise.

[Tonchi]

Originally Posted by Kitsune

Someone has to explain to me why flour, something mankind has consumed for thousands of years, is suddenly off-limits. Same with sugar. I'm going to continue baking bread and enjoying it.

Kit, not everybody has the same metabolism. You may not have a problem with wheat, but billions of people worldwide do. It is just plain not digestible compared to many other things like potatoes and rice. It really causes you to "pack on" the insulation, something which might have once been desirable in some climates and economic conditions. The reason wheat is such a pervasive part of the American diet is found in history. The grain of the Bible and of Egypt was NOT our wheat. What they called "corn" (sometimes translated in contemporary texts as "wheat") in those days was a wild grain common in the hot middle east. Wheat is a COLD climate grain, and it became popular in such northern climates as England. When this country was colonized, they brought the wheat with them, it grows great in the northern Midwest as we all know. We also know that nowdays it is a bleached and adulterated product in many cases and is used as a cheap filler in many processed or frozen ready-to-eat products. In other words, it's not the whole-grain wheat which is evil, it's what we have done with it and how we use it in our foods.

Americans had also tried to introduce wheat into indigenous diets as a substitute for corn. Especially in Mexico, where corn tortillas were a staple of life, there has been a great campaign to switch to flour tortillas (wheat) on the logic that is it more nutritious. But the fact is that the epidemic of obesity - worldwide - did not exist until the switch to processed American-type foods, many of which contained wheat flour, began in the 20th century. Many native tribes were characterized in folk art as having plump women, this is true, but it was a symbol of prosperity and not bad diet. Now the wide availability of junk food, made from wheat flour and sugar, has turned all ages and both sexes even in the poorest countries into walking bowling balls. It is obvious that these people do not have MORE to eat nowdays and that is why they are becoming fat, it's that they have easy access to the WRONG things to eat, namely wheat and sugar.

I am not a chemist and can't explain to you with charts and diagrams why this happens inside the human body, and why it happens to some people more than others. I can only say that in many people these two food elements are a deadly combination. Take them out of your diet, and, all other things being equal, you will lose weight. Although potato chips and avocado dip would be allowable under such a regimen, and fried chicken too provided you did not bread the meat with flour (so no KFC), we have to hope that a person is not so mentally unbalanced that this is all they would eat. Somewhere a brain has be be involved in any diet. If you sit on your ass in front of a TV during every waking hour, stuffing your face with all the foods which do not contain flour or sugar, would you honestly claim you were trying to lose weight? Yes, exercise, even if you only walk 5 blocks a day to and from the bus or across the campus. But eating the best foods for your body to process also makes exercise easier and more pleasant.

[Ibby]

dinner: a bowl of grits (two packets, instant), a root beer, and about three seasoned spuds (potato wedges). Oh, yeah, and about 1500 mL of Nestea.

[Undertoad]

Turkey hoagie w cheese depends on the mayo. The roll is probably 8 points, the cheese 2 pts per slice, the turkey 1 pt per slice. The mayo is 1 pt per teaspoon so a large slag of it is as much as 6 pts.

Buffalo wings are Right Out, probably 1 pt each.

Cheesesteaks are Right Out, probably 1 pt per bite.

You have to do what works for you. For me, I would *order* the turkey and cheese and then eat half of it. Because I'm weird. This is wasteful, but so is eating it.

A mile and a half of walking gets you back 3 pts worth. A slice and a half of cheese.