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Old 11-12-2011, 04:12 PM   #1
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Police Report Savannah Airport Center of Crime Ring

Major crimes are happening there and there are enough reports
of the idiots running these things preventing the cops
from coming in and doing their jobs.

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I don't believe that...it's a cheap trick... in fact I made up the headline, but the map is true.

Here is the same map (dates/kinds of crimes) for PDX centered on the Occupy Portland encampment

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The Occupy Portland encampment is in "Chapman Square" near the bottom of the map

My point being one or a few news media reports with misleading
headlines and/or visuals can sway public opinion.
I think the link to the above maps can be informative about the background of any crime reports

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Old 11-12-2011, 12:08 PM   #2
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The other category of deaths seem to have been things that would have happened anyway -- a veteran suicide, and a drug overdose.

I imagine that, as winter sets in, someone will freeze to death, or die sooner than they might have, and it will happen in a tent in an Occupy instead of a corner of vacant building.

Which is to say: the ills of society still exist. Ignoring them (or returning them to the previously-used methods of not regarding them) does not make them go away.
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Old 11-12-2011, 02:23 PM   #3
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NY: 10/1/2011 — Police Arrest More Than 700 Protesters on Brooklyn Bridge
Madison, WI: 10-27-2011 — Madison Occupiers Lose Permit Due to Public Masturbation
Phoenix: 10/28/2011 — Flier at Occupy Phoenix Asks, “When Should You Shoot a Cop?”
NY: 10/18/2011 — Thieves Preying on Fellow Protesters
NY: 10/9/2011 — Stinking up Wall Street: Protesters Accused of Living in Filth as Shocking Pictures Show One Demonstrator Defecating on a POLICE CAR
NY: 10/7/2011 — Occupiers Rush Police … More
Cleveland: 10/18/2011 — ‘Occupy Cleveland’ Protester Alleges She Was Raped
NY: 10/10/2011 — ‘Increasingly Debauched’: Are Sex, Drugs & Poor Sanitation Eclipsing Occupy Wall Street?
Seattle: 10/18/2011 — Man Accused of Exposing Self to Children Arrested
10/12/2011 — Iran Supports ‘Occupy Wall Street’
Portland: 10/16/2011 – #OccupyPortland Protester Desecrates Memorial To U.S. War Dead
Portland: 10/15/2011 — #OccupyPortland Protesters Sing “F*** The USA”
Chicago: 10/17/2011 — COMMUNIST LEADER Cheered at Occupy Chicago
10/15/2011 — American Nazi Party Endorses Occupy Wall Street‘s ’Courage,‘ Tells Members to Support Protests and Fight ’Judeo-Capitalist Banksters’
Boston: 10/14/2011 — Coast Guard member spit on near Occupy Boston tents
Boston: 10/11/2011 — Boston Police Arrest Over 100 from Occupy Boston
New York: 10/11/2011 — “You Can Have Sex with Animals.”
New York: 10/15/2011 — Harassing Police with Accusations of Phony Injuries
New York: 10/9/2011 – ‘Occupy Wallstreet’ Protesters Steal from Local Businesses
New York: 10/25/2011 — Three Men Threatened to Kill 24-Year-Old Occupy Wall Street Protester for Reporting Rape
Baltimore: 10/18/2011 — #OccupyBaltimore Discourages Sexual Assault Victims from Contacting Police
Portland: 10/27/2011 — Occupy Portland’s Attempt At Wealth Redistribution Ends In Theft
Los Angeles: 10/14/2011 – Anti-Semitic Protester at Occupy Wall Street
10/27/2011 — A Death Threat From an Occupy Wall Street Protester
10/27/2011 – Anti-Semitic Tweet From Occupier or Sympathizer
Boston: 10/20/2011 — Occupy Boston Doesn’t Want Police Involved in Rape
New York: 10/5/2011: Anti-Semitic Occupier Screams About Jews, Israel
New York: 10/4/2011 — Occupier Taunts Jewish Man
Boston: 10/2011 — Occupiers Block Street
New York: 10/2011 — Occupier Tries to Steal Police Officer’s Gun
New York: 10/27/2011 — Occupiers Block Traffic, Get Arrested
Oakland: 10/27/2011 — Occupiers Throw Garbage at Police
Oakland: 10/19/2011 — Abusive #OccupyOakland Protesters Ban Media from Tent City
Eugene, OR: 10/19/2011 — Occupiers Displace Farmers’ Market Threatening Hundreds of Jobs
Portland, OR: 10/18/2011 — Capitalist Offering Jobs at Occupy Portland Finds Few Takers
NY: 10/20/2011 — #OccupyWallStreet Threatens Businesses, Patrons
NY: 10/14/2011 — Violence Breaks Out During #OccupyWallStreet March Toward Stock Exchange
NY: 10/14/2011 — Protesters March On Wall Street, Scuffle With Cops
Oakland: 10/19/2011 — #OccupyOakland Protesters Threaten Reporter
Oakland: 10/26/2011 — Occupiers Scuffle with Police
Oakland: 10/24/2011 — Protesters Storm, Vandalize, Shut Down Chase Bank
Dayton, OH: 10/22/2011 — Protester: ‘F*ck The Military, F*ck Your Flag, And F*ck The Police’
Chicago: 10/14/2011 – Protesters’ Message At #OccupyChicago Rally: ‘Destroy Israel’
NY: 10/23/2011 — #OccupyWallStreet Supporter Rants Against Israel, Jews
NY: 10/22/2011 — #Occupy Kid: ‘Burn Wall Street, Burn!’
NY: 10/21/2011 — New Yorkers Fed Up With Noisy, Defecating Protesters
Oakland: 10/21/2011 — Occupy Oakland Evicted After Reports Of Crime And Intimidation
Oakland: 10/19/2011 — #OccupyOakland Out of Control: Rats, Graffiti, Vandalism, Sexual Harassment, Public Sex and Urination
Chicago: 10/26/2011 – Occupiers Under Investigation by FBI for Links to Terrorism
Cleveland: 10/29/2011 — Rape Reported at Occupy Cleveland
Dallas: 10/24/2011 — Police Investigating Possible Sexual Assault Of Teen At Occupy Dallas
Bloomington, IN: 10/26/2011 — Man Claims Occupy Bloomington Protesters Drugged, Handcuffed Him
NY: 10/10/2011 — Sex, Drugs and Hiding from the Law at Wall Street Protests
Glasgow: 10/26/2011 — Woman Gang-Raped
Boston: 10/23/2011 — Occupy Boston Protesters Arrested For Dealing Heroin – With 6 Year-Old in Tent
Portland: 10/16/2011 – Sex Offender Registers Occupy Portland Camp as Address
Denver: 10/15/2011 — Occupy Denver Demonstrator Accused of Groping TV Photographer
Lawrence, KS: 10/25/2011 — Sexual Assault Reported at Occupy Camp
Minneapolis, MN: Bricks, Rocks, ‘Riot Supplies’ Discovered by Police
Phoenix, AZ: 10/27/2011 — Neo-Nazis Patrol “Occupy Phoenix” With AR-15′s
Chicago: 10/26/2011 — Occupy Chicago Invades City Hall
10/26/2011 — ACORN, Occupy Email Talks About Assault on Banks
10/26/2011 – OccupyWallStreet Strategy for Reports of Violence Against Cops
Chicago: 10/26/2011 — Unrepentant Domestic Terrorist Bill Ayers Wows Occupiers
Chicago: 10/25/2011 — Ayers Coaches #OccupyChicago, Callsg for School ‘Occupations’
10/26/2011/ — Occupy Protests Have Jewish Leaders Concerned
Wash DC: 10/27/2011 – OccupyDC Leftists Provoke Police – Hang Flag on Top of DC Statue
Albuquerque, NM: 10/26/2011 — Occupy Squatters Riot With Police
San Diego: 10/25/2011 — Flag Used as Chew Toy by Occupier’s Dog
Oakland: 10/25/2011 — Occupiers Throw Bottles at Police
NY: 10/27/2011 — Occupy Wall Street Protesters: Rush Limbaugh Is Bigger Threat Than Al-Qaeda
10/27/2011 — Occupy Wall Street Launching First Nationwide General Strike in America Since 1946
NY: 10/28/2011 — Fox 5 News Reporter Assaulted at OWS
10/28/2001 — Total Occupy Arrests Made Thus Far: 2750
Nashville: 10/28/2011 — 30 Arrests Made at Wall St. Protest
NY: 10/20/2011 — Former Marine Tries to Taunt Police into Violence
NY: 1023/2011 — Islamist Group Joins with Occupy Wall Street
Los Angeles: 10/13/2011 — Roundup of Overt Occupy anti-Semitism
NY: 10/12/2011 — There are No Anti-Semites at Occupy Wall Street. Except for This Guy
Missoula, MT: 10/20/2011 — Drunk 11-Year-Old At Occupy Missoula, Adult Arrested
Oakland: 10/28/2011 — Bounty Out On Police Officer?
Manchester, NH: 10/28/2011 – Woman charged with pimping teen recruited at Occupy NH rally
San Diego: 10/28/2011 – 40 Occupiers arrested
Boston: 10/24/2011 — Occupy Boston Vandalism of Banks
Boston: 10/25/2011 – Store Owner Suffers 4 Break Ins Since Occupy Boston Began
Portland: 10/28/2011 — Portland Police: Buckets of Excrement Scattered Around #OccupyPortland Camp
Seattle: 10/20/2011 — Two Possible Occupiers Charged With Assault
Seattle: 10/18/2011 — Armed Felon Arrested at Occupy Seattle
Seattle: 10/18/2011 — A Tent Fight and (At Least) One Arrest at Occupy Seattle
Seattle: 10/17/2011 — Over 50 Cops Clear Westlake Occupation, Make Eight Arrests
Seattle: 10/13/2011 — Cops Arrest Several Occupy Protesters
Seattle: 10/13/2011 — Chanting Protesters Surround Police After Officers Arrest Two
Denver: 10/29/2011 — Protesters Clash with Police at OWS Denver
Austin: 10/13/2011 – Occupy Austin protesters arrested for blocking cleaning Crews
Calgary, CN: 10/28/2011 — Occupiers do $40,000 in Property Damage
Cincinnati, OH: 10/21/2011 — 23 Arrested, Remains of protests fill two dumpsters
Sacramento: 10/19/2011 – 9 arrested in ‘Occupy Sacramento’ protest
Sacramento: 10/13/2011 – Four More Occupy Sacramento Demonstrators Arrested
Austin, TX: 10/22/2011 – Man Arrested After Knife Incident at Occupy Austin Camp
Nashville: 10/29/2011 — Tenn. Protesters Arrested For 2nd Straight Night
Austin, TX: 10/30/2011 – Austin Police arrest 38 Occupy Austin Protesters
NY: 10/30/2011 — Woman Assaulted in Her tent
Orlando, FL: 10/28/2011 – Occupy Orlando, police clash over use of downtown park
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Old 11-12-2011, 02:24 PM   #4
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Orlando, FL: 10/26/2011 – 2 Occupy Orlando protesters arrested for trespass
Orlando, FL: 10/22/2011 – Police arrest 19 Orlando protesters on trespass charges
Asheville, NC: 10/30/2011 – Occupiers Clash with Homeless in Asheville
Nationwide: 10/27/2011 — Pro-Occupy Site claims 2511 Arrests Thus Far
Fort Worth, TX: 10/16/2011 — Arrests at Occupy Fort Worth Protest
NY: 10/29/2011 — Three Incidents of Anti-Semitism
San Francisco: 10/29/2011 — Anti-Semitic, Folsom Street Fair Types & Che Guevara Lovin
Oklahoma City: 10/30/2011 — Death of Street Poet at #OccupyOKC Treated as Homicide
Baltimore: 10/31/2011 — Woman Claims She was Raped at #OccupyBaltimore
Boston: 10/31/2001 — Alleged Heroin Dealer Joined Occupy Movement
Ottawa: 10/31/2011 — #OccupyOttawa Violent & Sexual Assaults Not Reported to Police
Santa Barbara, CA: 10/5/2011 — Occupiers Defy Police
Santa Barbara, CA: 10/6/2011 — 8 Occupiers Arrested
Denver, CO: 10/31/2011 — Occupiers Taunt Police, Knock Motorcycle Cop to Ground
Dallas, TX: 10/24/2011 — 23 Occupy Dallas Protesters Arrested After Bank Demonstration
Richmond, VA: 10/31/2011 — Arrests of Occupiers in Richmond
Dallas, TX: 1v1/1/2011: Man Arrested for Child Sex assault at Occupy Dallas Camp
NY: 11/1/2011 — Protesters Flock to STD-Test Clinics After Occupier ‘Free Love’
Iowa: 11/1/2011 — Occupiers Intend to Disrupt Iowa Caucus
NY: 11/1/2011 — Occupy Wall Street Costs Main Street Workers Their Jobs
San Diego: 10/29/2011 — Businesswoman Closes Shop After Threats By Occupiers
Palm Desert, CA: 11/1/2011 — Occupiers Arrested
Tampa, FL: 10/24/2011 — Six Occupiers Arrested
Tampa, FL: 10/27/2011 – Two More Arrested In Connection to Occupy Tampa Movement
Tampa, FL: 10/29/2011 – Occupy Tampa Protesters Arrested After Scuffle With Police
Oakland, CA: 11/3/2011 — Rallies Turn Violent
Seattle, WA: 11/2/2011 — Cops, Protesters Clash
Oakland, CA: 11/3/2011 — Protests Degenerate Into Chaos
Tulsa, OK: 11/2/2011 — Occupiers Clash With Police
Sacramento, CA: 11/2/2011 — Occupiers Smash County Vehicle Windows
Philadelphia: 11/2/2011 — Occupiers Arrested
Charlottesville, VA: 11/1/2011 — Underage Drinking at Occupy Charlottesville Site
Portland: 11/2/2011 — Occupier Shoves Police Officer into Moving Bus
Oakland: 11/2/2011 — Malkin’s Collection of Vandalism and Menacing Signs
NYC: 11/3/2011 — Occupier Busted In Tent Grope, Suspected In Rape
NYC: 11/4/2011 – 16 OWS Protesters Arrested at Goldman Sachs HQ
Oakland, CA: 11-3-2011 — Occupy-Friendly Business Vandalized
Asheville, NC: 11/3/2011 — 24 Occupiers Arrested
Raleigh, NC: 10/28/2011 – Eight at Occupy Raleigh Arrested After Standoff
NYC: 11/4/2011 — Deranged Homeless Man Goes on Violent Rampage In Zuccotti Park
Dallas, TX: CPS Seizes Baby From ‘Occupy Dallas’ Site
Wash DC: 11/4/2011 — Occupier Uses Child as Human Shield — Video
Wash DC: 11/4/2011 — Occupiers Try to Storm Americans for Prosperity Event — Video
Omaha, NE: 11/3/2011 — Three Occupiers Arrested
Atlanta: 11/3/2011 — Protester Turns On Fellow Protester With Knife
Los Angeles: 10/28/2011 — Drug Use and Property Damage
Boston, MA: 11/4/2011 — 3 Charged With Dealing Crack; Occupy Boston ‘Deteriorating’
Boston, MA: 11/4/2011 — Occupiers Storm Israeli Consulate; Anti-Israel Chants — Video
Vancouver, CN: 11/5/2011 – Occupy Vancouver Death Dooms Protest Camp
Fort Collins, CO: 11/4/2011 — Occupier Arrested for Setting Fire to Condo Complex … $10M Damage
Chula Vista, CA: 11/6/2011 — Underage Girl Missing From Occupy Protests
Los Angeles, CA: 11/5/2011 – Two Assaults Raise Concerns About Crime at Occupy L.A.
Dallas, TX: 11/5/2011 — Eight Arrests at Dallas Bank Protest
Olympia, WA: 11/5/2011 – Two Occupy Protesters Arrested
Seattle, WA: 11/3/2011 — Occupiers Cost City $426,000; Most of it Police Overtime
Olympia, WA: 11/2/2011 — 3 Occupiers Arrested for Suspected of Robbing Local Wine Merchant
Worcester, MA: 11/6/2011 — 25 Occupiers Arrested
Milwaukee, WI: 11/2/2011 — Photojournalist, Two others Arrested at Protest … Video
Milwaukee, WI: 10/20/2011 — Police Confront Occupier –Video … Arrested
Wash. DC: 11/5/2011 — Rampaging Occupiers Attack 78 Year-Old Woman — Video
Rochester, NY: 11/3/2011 — 161 Occupiers Arrested at Park
NYC: 11/5/2011 – Police Clash With Occupiers, 20 Arrested at Courthouse Protest
NYC: 11/5/2011 — Occupier Arrested for Vandalizing McDonald’s; Wanted Free Food
Asheville, NC: 11/5/2011 – Four Occupiers Arrested
Honolulu, HI: 11/6/2011 — Police Arrest Half-Dozen Occupiers
Waikiki, HI: 11/7/2011 — Two Dozen Occupiers Arrested
Portland, OR: 11/7/2011 — Occupiers Arrested for Threatening Restaurant Employees
Portland, OR: 11/7/2011 — Occupier Arrested for Threatening Security Staff with Hammer
Augusta, GA: 10/28/2011 — Occupier Arrested in Knife Threat
Portland OR: 11/9/2011 — Police Suspect Occupiers in Molotov Cocktail Attack
Sacramento, CA: 11/7/2011 — Homeless Clash With Occupy Protesters At Park
New Orleans: 11/8/2011 — Man Dead for Two Days Found in Occupy Encampment
San Diego: 11/7/2011 — Occupiers Splatter Vendor Food Carts with Blood, Urine
Los Angeles: 11/7/2011 — Occupiers Shut Down Burger King — Video
Atlanta, GA: 11/6/2011 — Occupiers Arrested After Attacking Police
St. Louis, MO: 11/9/2011 — Occupiers Hack Into Mayor’s Website
Oakland, CA: 11/8/2011 — “Dangerous” Occupiers Hurting Small Business Owners
Vancouver, CN: 11/8/2011 — Occupiers Bite Two Police Officers
Wash DC: 11/8/2011 — Occupiers Use Children to Block Traffic — Video
Portland, OR: 11/9/2011 — Occupiers Threaten Citizen-Journalist – Video
Wash DC: 11/8/2011 — Occupiers Use Racial Taunts Against Black Security Guard — Video
Eureka, CA: 11/9/2011 — Occupier Defecates in Bank – Video
Wash DC: 11/5/2011 – Occupiers Menace Children, Female Reporter – Video
Portland, OR: 11/8/2011 — Occupiers Menace News Crew – Video
NYC: 11/8/2011 — Occupier: ‘I Wouldn’t Give a F**k if 9/11 Happened 911 More Times’
NYC: 11/8/2011 — Small Business Owner Threatened, Terrorized By Occupiers
San Francisco, CA: 11/10/2011 — Occupier Threatens Park Ranger
Burlington, VT: 11/10/2011 — Veteran Shoots Self at Encampment
Oakland, CA: 11/3/2011 — ‘Occupy Oakland’ Goes After Cop
NYC: 11/10/2011 — EMT Assaulted at Occupy Wall Street
San Diego, CA: 11/10/2011 — Occupier Attacks Woman with Camera
Berekely, CA: 11/10/2011 — 39 Occupiers Arrested
Westwood, CA: 11/9/2011 — 11 Occupiers Arrested for Blocking Traffic
Fresno, CA: 11/9/2011 — 40 Occupiers Arrested
Toledo, OH: 11/1/2011 — 2 Occupiers Arrested
Houston, TX: 11/9/2011 — 10 Occupiers Arrested
NYC: 11/8/2011 — Hobbyist Photographer Describes Assault in Zuccotti Park
Oakland, CA: 11/10/2011: Fatal Shooting Over Drugs
Oakland: CA: 11/10/2011 — Protesters Attack News Crew Covering Fatal Shooting
Pasadena, CA: 11/10/2011 — Occupiers Announce Plans to Disrupt Rose Bowl Parade
Tampa, FL 11/10/2011 — Three Occupiers Arrested
Portland, OR: 11/10/2011 — Occupiers Billed for Police Car Vandalism
Olympia, WA: 11/11/2011 — Occupiers Asked to Pack Up After Assault, Drug Arrests
Denver, CO: 11/11/2011 — Occupiers Storm BlogCon11 … One Arrest
Salt Lake City, UT: 11/12/2011 — Protest Shut Down After Body Discovered In Tent
San Francisco: 11/8/2011 — Shoplifting, Fights On The Rise Around Encampment
San Francisco: 11/10/2011 — Occupiers Accused of Ferry Building Thefts, Filth
San Francisco: 11/10/2011 — Protester Busted For Gun Violation Arrested Again
Mobile, AL: 11/9/2011 — 18 Occupy Protestors Arrested

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Old 11-12-2011, 02:44 PM   #5
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Does the news report in your link really sound like an valid, accurate characterization of the month-long activities of the Occupy Portland protestors ?
It doesn't have to be. It's just reporting these events.
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Old 11-12-2011, 04:45 PM   #6
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According to Portland Police, crime in the area of the Occupy protest is up 18 percent compared to last year.

In response, Portland Mayor Sam Adams wrote an open letter to the protesters, saying the current situation is not sustainable.
http://www.flashalertnewswire.net/im..._stat_comp.pdf

http://www.examiner.com/conservative...-up-18-percent
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Old 11-12-2011, 05:39 PM   #7
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If you flood the area with cops with a low-tolerance brief, crime statistics will rise.

If you make a list of sound-bite headlines you'll come up with plenty. Look deeper.

No doubt there are criminals hiding amongst the legitimate protesters. But when you see these reports of "man arrested at OWS for ..." ask yourself, did the other protesters cooperate with the police in identifying and detaining? Or did they resist this? I'm yet to hear of a case where someone accused of a non-protest related crime was protected by the protesters.

Most of the people at Occupy movements are there with the aim of saving society, not preying upon it. The actions of a few, who may just be using the crowd for their own purposes, should not blind us to that.

Here's an analogy. Consider Merc's list of headlines. Now imagine a corresponding list of every bad headline about the US military, both the misdeeds actually committed and the unfair accusations. I'm talking anything from thrill killing in Afghanistan to a bar brawl in Okinawa. Should this list taint the reputation of all military people as a bunch of thugs who should be ignored? No. Absolutely not. Nor should the actions of the fringe at OWS taint the whole movement.

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Old 11-12-2011, 08:39 PM   #8
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According to Portland Police, crime in the area of
the Occupy protest is up 18 percent compared to last year.

In response, Portland Mayor Sam Adams wrote an open letter
to the protesters saying the current situation is not sustainable.
http://www.flashalertnewswire.net/im..._stat_comp.pdf

http://www.examiner.com/conservative...-up-18-percent
Ok, we can play quote a % game

The Police Report for the Downtown District of Savannah shows
a 15 % increase in violent crimes (YTD 2011 over YTD 2010).

Week ending 11/5/11 Violent Crimes up 15%
---------------Homicide----Rape---Robbery---Assaults-----Total
YTD 2011---------6---------6---------113---------56---------191
YTD 2010---------4---------3----------12---------69---------165

Did the 2-day Occupy Savannah event cause this 15% increase in violent crime ?
Of course not.


With respect to your link to PDX, it is just such a headline that I have been saying is misleading.
That report covers PDX Police Districts 832, 840 and 850.
These are shown in the pic below.
Those three areas make up the entire downtown Portand business district, inside the freeways.

Everyone can interpret the map as they please, but it's my opinion that
if Occupy Portland caused such an increase,
it would surely appear as a different pattern on the map above,
centered on the encampment area.

The number for District # 830 only could be more informative.
Although there were 0 "trespass" cases in 2010, I'm reasonably sure
the 37 cases in 2011 cases are connected to Occupy PDX.
Those are almost half of the total (90) used to get the 18%

Merc, my hope is that you're take another look at these links,
and maybe change your views a bit.... Sure, that'll happen !
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Ok, we can play quote a % game

Everyone can interpret the map as they please, but it's my opinion that if Occupy Portland caused such an increase, it would surely appear as a different pattern on the map above, centered on the encampment area.
A greater amount of policing of the Occupy area leads to a greater amount of crime outside the Occupy area. Here's an Open Letter from the Oakland cops to Occupy Oakland explaining why Occupy Oakland is bad for Oakland.

As you watched a massive section of the Portland police force trying to oust protesters this morning, where were those cops not working? What happened to the response time for crimes happening outside those districts? Or were the police paid overtime for this effort?

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Merc, my hope is that you're take another look at these links,
and maybe change your views a bit.... Sure, that'll happen !
"And you MUST change your views because it is NOT POSSIBLE that I am wrong."
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As you watched a massive section of the Portland police force
trying to oust protesters this morning, where were those cops not working?
What happened to the response time for crimes happening outside those districts?
Or were the police paid overtime for this effort?

"And you MUST change your views because it is NOT POSSIBLE that I am wrong."
I'm posting this because the initial remarks by PDX Chief of Police Reese
were a big deal in his justification for ordering officers to disband
the Occupy Portland protesters on Thursday (11/17/11).

He was responding to a question from a reporter asking if the PDX police
were able to respond normally to 911 calls for help from the public.
Chief Reese made something of an emotional reply about
taking 3 hours to respond to a report of "rape".


The Republic
Associated Press
Nov 20, 2011

Portland police chief sorry for saying Occupy Portland
slowed police response to rape call

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PORTLAND, Ore. — Portland Police Chief Mike Reese has apologized
for saying Thursday it took police three hours to respond to a sexual assault call
because officers were tied up with Occupy Portland.

In a statement Saturday night, Reese said a variety of factors affected
police resources the day of the call, including a shooting, a serious traffic crash
and Occupy Portland events. Reese's statement said he
didn't intend to mislead people during TV interviews Thursday
and should have gathered all information before discussing it publicly.

A 15-year-old girl called Nov. 6 to report she had been the victim
of a sexual assault two days earlier. Police said it took three hours
before an officer showed up at her location because only two police cars
were available to respond to calls in that precinct.
FWIW: Chief Reese is reportedly going to run for Mayor in the next election.
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Old 11-15-2011, 07:36 PM   #11
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Merc, my hope is that you're take another look at these links,
and maybe change your views a bit.... Sure, that'll happen !
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Well I did enjoy watching them getting kicked out at 1 am in the morning. Does that count?
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Most of the people at Occupy movements are there with the aim of saving society, not preying upon it. The actions of a few, who may just be using the crowd for their own purposes, should not blind us to that.



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Old 11-13-2011, 08:44 AM   #13
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I've been up since 5:30 watching the Occupy Portland coverage on TV.
It's was reported that the police sent a few officers into the encampment
at midnight, telling the people to leave the park.
The police lined up in riot gear in the crosswalk of east-west Madison St.
The crowd was in the street of north-south 3rd Ave.

This apparently went on from midnight until 6 am,
when the police told the crowd to get back on the sidewalk
and apparently gave permission to go back into the park !

Within just a few minutes, 3rd Ave was clear.
A crew with buckets from the crowd walked along the street picking up debris.
The crowd began laughing and chanting to a drumbeat.
"WHO'S BLOCKING THE STREET NOW "

After about 20 minutes, the police were still in the line across Madison.
Protesters on bicycles started riding up 3rd Ave along with a few cars.
Then a larger number of bicyclists came down Madison across 3rd to the police line.
They obeyed the traffic signals... and the police line broke away and they proceeded on down Madison.
As the police line broke up, the crowd started cheering and chanting:
"YOU'RE PART OF THE 99 PERCENT"

One officer was injured in the leg during the night, taken away in an ambulance.
Police Lt King did an on-mic interview saying "He is recovering".
All in all, the whole thing seems to have been non-violent.
A few protesters were arrested during the night.

The odd thing is the crowds have gone back into the city park.
Some of the barriers in the park are being taken down
Lt King spoke about this saying "Eventually they will go home"

It's 6:45 and the area seems crowded, but peaceful.
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Old 11-13-2011, 09:02 AM   #14
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At 7:00 am, the media are interviewing themselves.

The protestors have signs and are tweeting "VICTORY"
The Mayor is thanking the police for their service
Crews from Occupy PDX are putting trash into dumpsters
Traffic is flowing on the streets.

The best descriptive I've heard is the atmosphere is "relaxed"
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Old 11-14-2011, 08:46 AM   #15
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IN MY OPINION

The 'occupancy' movement seems to be making a shift from the rather muddled agenda of pouting about debbil rich-folks to 'let's hunker down 'here' because we can and want to'.

That is: 'occupancy' seems less and less about 'we are the 99%' and more and more about 'I wanna sit, stand, squat, 'here', so, make me move'.
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