Isolationism

[Clodfobble]

Originally Posted by dov

BTW, you need us, we do not need you. You are our only liability.

Well, we are holding Mike Meyers hostage... And I'd say Celine Dion is a second liability of yours.

[BigV]

What dov's really trying to say...

[Beestie]

Originally Posted by BigV

What dov's really trying to say...

Your map could use some fixin. You left off the umbilical cord connecting Quebec to France.

Originally Posted by Clodfobble

And I'd say Celine Dion is a second liability of yours.

As much as I wish I could, I can’t argue this fact, sigh.

Originally Posted by Beestie

Your map could use some fixin. You left off the umbilical cord connecting Quebec to France.

Who here boycotted French’s Mustard?

[wolf]

Originally Posted by dov

"All your base are belong to US." Is that some type of code?

Yes.

Well, not actually. It is an inside joke and you are outdoors.

[footfootfoot]

Sorry for skipping ahead before reading all the other posts, it is doubtful that I'd remember this initial thought by the time I got to the end.

Originally Posted by tw

Good. Why are those people undesireable and why must they be kept out?snip

Well, for starters we have to pay them a shit load more money in the states than we do if they are kept at home. Doesn't letting them into the US defeat the point of nafta? How are US corporations going to enjoy the benefits of remote slavery if the slaves insist on moving closer to our home? jeez louise.

And dov, speaking of ass cracks, my first reaction to the wall was how about a wall between my asshole and the current administration? I'm sure I'm not the only american who could get behind that, so to speak.

BTW, we'd suss out you canucks the moment you said eh? at the end of a sentence ass crack or not.

now I'll go ahead and read the rest of the replies

[footfootfoot]

Originally Posted by dov

"All your base are belong to US." Is that some type of code?

Originally Posted by wolf

Yes.

Well, not actually. It is an inside joke and you are outdoors.

And while you're at it, take off every zig.

[Happy Monkey]

For great justice!!!

[tw]

Originally Posted by footfootfoot

Well, for starters we have to pay them a shit load more money in the states than we do if they are kept at home. Doesn't letting them into the US defeat the point of nafta? How are US corporations going to enjoy the benefits of remote slavery if the slaves insist on moving closer to our home? jeez louise

Bingo. So why do we subsidize so many corporations to keep those jobs in America - that then require illegal immigrants? Why does the US government subsidize 50% of all sugar especially for the benefit of US Sugar and others on corporate welfare. From The Economist of 25 April 2005:

These are not happy times for the dwindling band of free-traders in Washington, DC. Trade sceptics are on the move on two fronts: raising the barricades against the Chinese and refusing to lower them for the Central Americans. ...

Outrageous import quotas keep the domestic price of sugar at double that of the world price. CAFTA would allow more imports in from Central American countries, but still less than 2% of US sugar production. For the sugar lobby—and the 15 or so Republican politicians who follow its bidding—that is still too much.

Furthemore, US government subsidizes make it virtually impossible to grow sugar in nations where sugar is better grown. US literally dumps excess sugar on world markets thereby destroying jobs in those other nations.

This is why the Doha Round broke up three days early in Cancun when anti-free trade nations - US and France - refused to even negotiate. Trade of goods WE make in American by restricting free trade and by subsidizing with corporate welfare.

We massively subsidize corn that is better grown overseas. OK. Now that agricultural industry needs employees. But we put restriction on legal immigration by requiring things like advance degrees. Where are those labors to come from? From the countries who need those jobs and could better grow that corn if free trade was practiced.

Now we will solve a problem that WE created by putting up walls? When does intelligence get used instead of bricks? In other venues, that same condition is called a riot - what happens when people use force rather than intellect to solve a problem.

They would rather stay home and work. But there is no work at home. US agricultural subsidies alone literally bankrupt third world agricultural industries. Sugar is only one in a long list of problems created by Americans who are 'on the take' and by other Americans who ignore this political corruption called corporate welfare.

You think a wall is a solution? Well how much do you ready know about the WTO Cancun conference where enemies of free trade were the United States and France?

[wolf]

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

For great justice!!!

Somebody set up us the bomb!

(damn, that works for both the real thread and the drift, doesn't it?)

[xoxoxoBruce]

We massively subsidize corn that is better grown overseas. OK. Now that agricultural industry needs employees. But we put restriction on legal immigration by requiring things like advance degrees. Where are those labors to come from? From the countries who need those jobs and could better grow that corn if free trade was practiced.

I doubt we need foreign workers for the corn, wheat, sorgum, millet, sunflower or rice farms. These are highly mechanized and automated requiring very little labor.
The armies of cheap labor are needed for fruit and vegetable crops where hand labor is intensive and backbreaking.

[footfootfoot]

Originally Posted by tw

snip

You think a wall is a solution? Well how much do you ready know about the WTO Cancun conference where enemies of free trade were the United States and France?

tw, you have a lot of good points thst I'd like to reply to, but I just got back from the hospital after cutting part of my finger off, so limited typing.

the wall is just rearranging deck chair on the titanic. its' just a cluster fuck and I'm sure the job will go to one of bush pals.

gotta go now

Us the bomb is set up!

[wolf]

thank you for making it clear that you still don't get it.