2/28/2005: The injured USS San Francisco - Page 3

BrianR · 03-28-2005, 11:41 AM

yes. I might have a link or story on this in the archives...I'll get back to you on it

Undertoad · 03-31-2005, 06:50 PM

Wow! Strategy Page has a new set of photos with higher-res shots including the area under the tarp.

hampor · 05-09-2005, 12:25 PM

According to Yahoo, they've issued the report on the collision.

Although the mountain was not there on the particular charts that they were using, there was an indication of a navigation hazard in the area on other set of charts that they were supposed to look at as well.

xoxoxoBruce · 05-09-2005, 09:00 PM

Those "other charts" must be the satellite data I read about. They've been getting much better at looking beneath the surface with satellites.

Elspode · 05-10-2005, 01:47 PM

I can hear the Captain of the vessel now...

"$150,000,000.00 to fix a dented front fender! That's outrageous! Do you know what this will do to my insurance rates?!"

tw · 05-10-2005, 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elspode

I can hear the Captain of the vessel now...

"$150,000,000.00 to fix a dented front fender! That's outrageous! Do you know what this will do to my insurance rates?!"

His insurance rates are probably the least of his problems. This clearly is a carrer buster. He need start looking for a new carrer - as I understand how the system works.

tw · 05-18-2005, 01:32 PM

Apparently damage to the USS San Francisco was more dangerous than was originally reported. Forward ballast tank was compromised. The boat remained stuck on the bottom, stern up, for some minutes before it finally and slowly floated to the surface. From the NY Times of 18 May 2005:
Adrift 500 Feet Under the Sea, a Minute Was an Eternity

Attached to the article is an interactive graphic entitled "Fighting to Save a Fallen Sailor". Notice the location of all forward ballast tanks.

Also confirmed by the article are that maps did not show the obstruction. Submarines move blind. They are dependant on maps that really only report 10% of the ocean.

xoxoxoBruce · 05-18-2005, 05:30 PM

Good find

I can't imagine what it was like down there, waiting and waiting, for the ship to rise. And when it did still not knowing if they would make it.

tw · 05-18-2005, 06:18 PM

Article notes that the Captain threw his command star into the grave of the sailor. A poetic expression that does say much about how the Navy works.

05-09-2005, 12:25 PM	#3
hampor Colloquialist Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: SiliValley Posts: 75	new report out According to Yahoo, they've issued the report on the collision. Although the mountain was not there on the particular charts that they were using, there was an indication of a navigation hazard in the area on other set of charts that they were supposed to look at as well.

05-09-2005, 09:00 PM	#4
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Those "other charts" must be the satellite data I read about. They've been getting much better at looking beneath the surface with satellites. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

05-10-2005, 01:47 PM	#5
Elspode When Do I Get Virtual Unreality? Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Raytown, Missouri Posts: 12,719	I can hear the Captain of the vessel now... "$150,000,000.00 to fix a dented front fender! That's outrageous! Do you know what this will do to my insurance rates?!" __________________ "To those of you who are wearing ties, I think my dad would appreciate it if you took them off." - Robert Moog

05-18-2005, 05:30 PM	#8
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Good find I can't imagine what it was like down there, waiting and waiting, for the ship to rise. And when it did still not knowing if they would make it. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

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03-28-2005, 11:41 AM	#1
BrianR Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 3,338	yes. I might have a link or story on this in the archives...I'll get back to you on it

03-31-2005, 06:50 PM	#2
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Wow! Strategy Page has a new set of photos with higher-res shots including the area under the tarp.

05-18-2005, 01:32 PM	#7
tw Read? I only know how to write. Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 11,933	Apparently damage to the USS San Francisco was more dangerous than was originally reported. Forward ballast tank was compromised. The boat remained stuck on the bottom, stern up, for some minutes before it finally and slowly floated to the surface. From the NY Times of 18 May 2005: Adrift 500 Feet Under the Sea, a Minute Was an Eternity Attached to the article is an interactive graphic entitled "Fighting to Save a Fallen Sailor". Notice the location of all forward ballast tanks. Also confirmed by the article are that maps did not show the obstruction. Submarines move blind. They are dependant on maps that really only report 10% of the ocean.

05-18-2005, 06:18 PM	#9
tw Read? I only know how to write. Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 11,933	Article notes that the Captain threw his command star into the grave of the sailor. A poetic expression that does say much about how the Navy works.

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