Critique of Black Culture

[ladysycamore]

Originally Posted by Troubleshooter

Then clue us in. Otherwise what's your point?

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...ack+talk+radio

Pick one and "study".

[Undertoad]

Does black talk radio represent blacks the same way white talk radio represents whites?

[Troubleshooter]

Originally Posted by ladysycamore

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...ack+talk+radio

Pick one and "study".

You asserted that there are issues that would not be to certain people's liking. What issue do you think is one that my pasty self wouldn't like?

Edit: As far as "study" goes I spend an inordinant amount of time trying to discern the commonalities in human thought so that such superficial traits as skin color are irrelavent. Part of the problem with the big picture is that people are so unwilling to loose themselves of aspects that they have no control over and that can be used as an excuse or as an artificial barrier to distance themselves from people who are really all the same.

[ladysycamore]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

Does black talk radio represent blacks the same way white talk radio represents whites?

Well, from what I've heard here in Philadelphia, I've listened to the black talk radio station and I've listened to the more conservative station (that seems to cater more to a white audience), and just from that example, I'd say that they echo a lot of the opinions of blacks and whites that *I* know, respectfully.

But, you'd have to listen for yourself to really get perspective.

[ladysycamore]

Originally Posted by Troubleshooter

You asserted that there are issues that would not be to certain people's liking. What issue do you think is one that my pasty self wouldn't like?

Try this:
http://www.what1340i.com/

If you are able, the best time to listen (study) would be sometimes btwn 7am-12 noon, then from 7pm until 1am.

Trust me, you'll find the answer to your question there.

[Troubleshooter]

Originally Posted by ladysycamore

Try this:
http://www.what1340i.com/

If you are able, the best time to listen (study) would be sometimes btwn 7am-12 noon, then from 7pm until 1am.

Trust me, you'll find the answer to your question there.

I appreciate your information, but you still haven't given me an answer.

There are apparentluy issues that stood out in your mind. Share them.

[ladysycamore]

Originally Posted by Troubleshooter

I appreciate your information, but you still haven't given me an answer.

But I did. The link to the radio station.

There are apparentluy issues that stood out in your mind. Share them.

TS: You made a statement that implied (to me, at least) that whites "study" (discuss) black culture more than blacks do. I gave you the link to the radio station to listen to as proof that the statement was incorrect, and that blacks most certainly DO study their own culture and discuss it more than people realize.


There is also this article to consider:

Black Talk Radio: Defining Community Needs and Identity
http://tinyurl.com/6ev47

[xoxoxoBruce]

So they've moved the barber shop to the air waves. I wonder what the ratio of the people that call in to the people that just listen in, is? Also what kind of screening they do before someone gets on the air? I'm sure they give preferance to callers that have spoken well in the past.

[elSicomoro]

Originally Posted by wolf

So speaketh the honorary negro

I carry my Righteous Whitey card on me at all times.

I know that I perhaps view the world through a naive suburban white woman's rose-colored prescription glasses, but might not the demographic imbalance in prison be representative of a demographic imbalance in the number of crimes committed by whites vs. persons of other races/ethnicities?

We know that there are more blacks than whites in prisons (source), but then we'd have to factor in probations, suspended sentences, etc. I'd say whites outnumber blacks in the end, but blacks are disproportionately represented.

[elSicomoro]

Originally Posted by Troubleshooter

Why? Because they actually give it more study than its participants?

Are you saying that this is the case? I certainly hope not, because--while it could be true based on sheer numbers--the chances of you being able to back up such a statement aren't very good.

I find watching white people try to discuss black culture funny because I believe that the vast majority of white people are ignorant about black culture. Though white people tend to be incredibly good at talking about things of which they have next to no knowledge.

[elSicomoro]

Originally Posted by lookout123

white people talking about conditions in minority communities = ignorance, racism, or both.

Quite possible.

members of minority groups discussing white people = witty social commentary.

Not necessarily...let me fix your equation for you:

sycamore discussing any and all people = always witty social commentary

[lookout123]

yeah, you and dave chappelle.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by sycamore

We know that there are more blacks than whites in prisons (source), but then we'd have to factor in probations, suspended sentences, etc. I'd say whites outnumber blacks in the end, but blacks are disproportionately represented.

I have a feeling that minorities are involved more with the crimes that have been targeted for stiff sentencing. Of course those crimes may have been targeted because of minority involvement.

[wolf]

The FBI Uniform Crime Report for 2000 has a lot of numbers.

Because they have chosen to release it as a .pdf file, it's a pain in the ass to reference specific pages ...

What we are looking at here is Section IV Persons Arrested

Head directly for Table 43 Arrests by Race 2000.

Looking at just the aggregate number of arrests for all index crimes, we find that there are 72.1 % of whites arrested, 25.1% of blacks.

The 2000 Census informs us that 77.1% of persons reported as white, and 12.9% reported as black.

I'm not getting into any complex statistical transforms here ... just looking at the raw percentages.

I'm trying to find a good way to phrase this and keep coming up short ... basically what I'm getting from this is that whites are offending proportionaly to their percentage of population, while blacks are committing (or getting caught committing crimes) at a much higher rate, in fact about twice the rate that would be expected if all other factors were equal.

(on the UCRs it is interesting to see the varience overall in the racial breakdown in the commission of certain types of crimes ... blacks and whites murder at nearly equal rates, but whites are more likely to perpetrate forcible rape, vandalism, arson, DUI, fraud, embezzlement, and forgery, among others.

Blacks lead in robbery, gambling, and have a probably statistically insignificant lead in murder and manslaughter.)

[Troubleshooter]

Originally Posted by sycamore

Are you saying that this is the case? I certainly hope not, because--while it could be true based on sheer numbers--the chances of you being able to back up such a statement aren't very good.

Not really, more a case of an assinine response to an assinine remark.

Originally Posted by sycamore

I find watching white people try to discuss black culture funny because I believe that the vast majority of white people are ignorant about black culture. Though white people tend to be incredibly good at talking about things of which they have next to no knowledge.

I find watching black people try to discuss white culture funny because I believe that the vast majority of black people are ignorant about white culture. Though black people tend to be incredibly good at talking about things of which they have next to no knowledge.