Bush Tells Blacks, 'I'm Here to Ask for Your Vote'

[Happy Monkey]

Advancement of white people to where?

[lookout123]

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

Advancement of white people to where?

just pulled the word advancement from the NAACP.

[Happy Monkey]

The point of black groups is to provide resources for a group that they consider to be underserved by the rest of society. What would be the point of a white advancement assocation?

[Troubleshooter]

I think that the crux of the issue is the difference between entitlement vs. opportunity.

[lookout123]

*ding ding ding* TS has nailed it!

again, we are not guaranteed "life, liberty, and happiness"
only "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness"

[wolf]

Well, the organization's mission statement is on their home page, if you'd care to visit.

[Troubleshooter]

Originally Posted by wolf

Well, the organization's mission statement is on their home page, if you'd care to visit.

I'm rather certain that they were being lumped in with the wackos to be dismissed.

[lookout123]

having just perused their site - i am sure as hell dismissing them.

here is the thing - if you only look at the mission statement, you're like "damn straight!" you wonder to yourself who in their right mind would disagree with the premise of the organization. but then you get into the their articles, and it is a supremecy group.

[Happy Monkey]

And blacks are the largest group that was systematically denied those three.

[lookout123]

talk to me about TODAY. no one denies that bad evil shit happened. the point is every day is a new day. how is anyone (other than anecdotal cases) in america denied "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" on 7/26/2004?

[Happy Monkey]

Also, there are a multitude of Anti-Defamation leagues for various white ethnicities which are active wherever there happen to be any lingering "no Irish need apply"-like sentiments. Of course, they don't get as much press because they don't have as much work to do.

[DanaC]

Thats like calling a women's support group sexist because it doesnt include or take into account men

[lookout123]

Originally Posted by DanaC

Thats like calling a women's support group sexist because it doesnt include or take into account men

are you sure you want to open that can of worms?

why is it that female golfers can sue to get on the PGA, and people support it? if a man tried to get on the LPGA, they would call him an ass.

females sue for the right to gain entrance to a private men's golf club and get attention and support. if a man wants entrance to Curves gym, he would be an ass...

[DanaC]

*chuckles* let me guess....Sexism is no longer the problem that it was, and we women should let bygones be bygones, bury the hatchet and stop trying to make men feel guilty for the sins of their forefathers? Any balancing attempts on our part are by default aimed at modern day man when in reality he has done us no harm and as such our balancing attempts become in and of themselves an oppression?

Well *smiles* that's one way of looking at it. Another way is that we live in a world built of both modernity and antiquity and many of the economic imperatives and social conditioning which underpinned the deeply patriarchal and possibly misogynistic world of our grandparents are still in evidence and as such still to be fought against

[Troubleshooter]

Originally Posted by DanaC

Thats like calling a women's support group sexist because it doesnt include or take into account men

sex·ism Audio pronunciation of "sexist" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (skszm)
n.

1. Discrimination based on gender*, especially discrimination against women.
2. Attitudes, conditions, or behaviors that promote stereotyping of social roles based on gender.

*Emphasis added.

Not liking a definition is not the same as not agreeing to the terms of that definition. It's important to be on the same page.

Connotations aside, the definition is correct.