Republicans find proof of voter fraud in Florida

[orthodoc]

*waves hand* Can I come live in Australia? Pretty please?? I've been swept off my feet by the magnificent logic of your electoral practices.

P.S. Thanks, Canada says hi back. Incidentally, Canada's electoral/voting practices are just as messed up as America's. Different details, same result.

[ZenGum]

*giggles*

Gulags? Well, last I heard, the fine for not voting was $20, but I guess if you refuse to pay it, eventually, they'll lock you in prison, and if you try to escape, they can shoot you. I guess we are a bit strict.

Having worked at a few elections, I've seen ballot papers with no valid vote but with anarchy symbols on them or slogans like "If voting could change anything it would be illegal". Some folks really go to town with write-in candidates, mostly international figures.

They still turn up to vote, though, so I guess those death threats work, eh?

[Griff]

Do you feel like your uninformed voters do a better job than our misinformed voters?

[infinite monkey]

Originally Posted by ZenGum

*giggles*

Gulags? Well, last I heard, the fine for not voting was $20, but I guess if you refuse to pay it, eventually, they'll lock you in prison, and if you try to escape, they can shoot you. I guess we are a bit strict.

Having worked at a few elections, I've seen ballot papers with no valid vote but with anarchy symbols on them or slogans like "If voting could change anything it would be illegal". Some folks really go to town with write-in candidates, mostly international figures.

They still turn up to vote, though, so I guess those death threats work, eh?

[ZenGum]

I guess randomising some votes helps keep power diffused. The donkey vote (numbering all boxes in order) seems to be about 1%.

Seriously, compulsory voting forces lazy moderates to vote and so helps discourage extremism in the serious parties.

[Stormieweather]

Rosanne Barr is on the ballot for president down here in Florida. Good heavens...

[infinite monkey]

You know...old Rosey has gotten a lot of bad rap...but that show was so good. I saw the one about domestic violence recently: fisher beats the crap out of Aunt Jackie. I always identified with Jackie, and I think this 'very special episode' was very well done.

Here's a small clip. It just kind of tied together with the domestic violence discussion.

In fact, it all ties in with the fact that though we've come a long way baby, we still have so far to go. If the republicans have their way, we're going to go backwards.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvj48...eature=related

/tangent

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by ZenGum

Dear America,

WTF is wrong with you idiots?

We're idiots.

[ZenGum]

Originally Posted by Spexxvet

We're idiots.

More Kinder Surprises, that's what you need. Thin the herd some.

[Lamplighter]

Maybe this is part of a continuing story from Florida, or maybe it's nothing.
But the article ticked me off... because I do believe the Republicans are
being hypocrites on this voter fraud issue and strict photo ID requirements.

CBS News
Lucy Madison
October 19, 2012,

Man arrested for tossing voter registration forms in Virginia

A 31-year-old man working for the Virginia Republican party was arrested
on Thursday after he was caught throwing out voter registration forms, Richmond, Va.,
the Rockingham County sheriff's office confirmed to CBS News.

The man, Colin Small, faces 13 felony and misdemeanor counts relating to voter fraud,
including one count of obstruction of justice, four counts of destruction
of voter registration applications and eight counts of disclosure of voter registration applications.

According to CBS affiliate WTVR local man reportedly spotted Small throwing a bag
into a Harrisonburg, Va., dumpster reserved for private use by the company at which he works,
and investigated because he was annoyed that the man had improperly used the dumpster.
He looked in the bag to discover eight filled-out registration forms.

The forms were discovered on October 15, the deadline for voter registration in Virginia.
Local officials said the forms would be counted and that the incident did not appear to be widespread.
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[Cyber Wolf]

Let this be a lesson: If you're going to do something potentially illegal like that, use a diamond cut shredder first! Privacy is paramount after all.

[DanaC]

Roseanne was an awesome, awesome show. I adored it. Less a 'sitcom' and more of a comedy drama. From that time when American tv was interested in working-class lives. Before everybody moved to loft apartments in New York.

[infinite monkey]

It really was. I'm a sitcom freak anyway...but Roseanne was a step above.

I was watching the one where Dan and Roseanne find the old pot and get high. So funny.

And the kids were excellent actors. Well, DJ not so much, but Becky and Darlene? Wonderful. I love seeing David on there and seeing Johnny Galecki now on Big Bang Theory.

But over here so many AMURCANS hate her because she grabbed her crotch like a baseball player when she sang the National Anthem at a baseball game. I've always said "who the heck asked her to sing the National Anthem? She's not known for being a singer. She's a comedian." So whoever was responsible for that fiasco made damn sure AMURCANS were appalled that'd she do such a thing. Poor taste, I suppose...but WHAT DID THEY EXPECT HER TO DO? Become Whitney Houston or something?

[DanaC]

Oh hell, I love sitcoms generally. When they're good. I don't like the cookie cutter ones that appear in a slew every so often.

Y'know, I think the dislike for her doing the anthem the way she did is an excuse. If they liked her before that then it's a very strange reason to alter that to active disike. On the other hand if they didn't like her before. If they found her a little coarse, and inappropriate and way too in their face for a working woman and a wife, and if she really didn't gel with their expectations and aspirations, then the anthem incident would just symbolize all that.


[eta] Y'know, if you were to judge American society on the cultural product it puts out, you'd be forgiven for thinking it truly is a classless society. That it is not divided into classes, but into the law-abiding and the criminal, the fiscally responsible and the poor. The only class that is spoken of in class terms at all is the middle. Which is apparently where everybody except drug dealers and millionaires lives.

The working class have all but vanished from view. Everybody is either middle-class, or they sit outside of class -what could be described as an underclass.

Cheers, Taxi and Roseanne defined an era in American television culture. Then everything became a little bit shinier and definitions of class altered. Loft-living, beautiful young things learning how to be grown-ups and rarely, if ever, dealing with finicky things like money, or suburban, middle-class family shenannigans. Not sure if the pendulum might not be starting to swing back a little though. Interesting to watch.

[infinite monkey]

True. I know that a lot of men hated her. Mouthy damn woman...

I think I'm going to find all the reruns this weekend.