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Old 02-02-2011, 10:40 AM   #1
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Just watch The Daily Show and Colbert Report - you'll see lots of examples.
The people you agree with agree that the people you both disagree with are often disagreeable.
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Old 02-02-2011, 10:48 AM   #2
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The people you agree with agree that the people you both disagree with are often disagreeable.
I agree.


I think.
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Old 02-02-2011, 10:51 AM   #3
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I wonder how this is going to end.



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Old 02-02-2011, 10:51 AM   #4
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The people you agree with agree that the people you both disagree with are often disagreeable.
The fact remains that they show multiple examples of Fox being incorrect.
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Old 02-01-2011, 03:57 PM   #5
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No, UT. News is not biased. News is just news. The modern presentation of news is biased, sure. And all the presentations have some kind of bias, and some amount of bias, agreed. Fox's bias is not my bias, and so it is obvious to me. Fox's bias is considerable, so it is obvious to everyone.



As for "fuck Fox", ... your words. Not mine. I said in all my posts here that the map represents a mistake. an oversight. this item by itself is not fuck-worthy. I did allow that my opinion of Fox as a news outfit is low. and although you pointed out that Dan Rather also made a mistake, I notice you didn't take issue with any of my assessments of Fox's style. Dan Rather's actions don't justify Fox's--you're not really trying to say that, are you? ABC (it was ABC, wasn't it? anywhooo) they got conned and went with it. they thought they had a scoop and went with it. I doubt Steve the Graphics Intern is trying to pull one over on Fox News, nor is he trying to rewrite geopolitical history with this successful and revealed submission of factually incorrect information.

I like what you said earlier about stuff needing to be double and triple checked, and that it still can be wrong. Heck. That's how we here know that this screenshot is wrong. We all checked it. We all checked it. It clearly got overlooked at Fox by ... by, well, everybody who looked at it. I don't think Fox was trying to convince me that Iraq is Egypt. but they do try to do that kind of thing enough that I have relegated them to advocate status. You're right, all the presentations have some kind of bias, and I strain to identify the motivations behind the other stories and sources I take in. Fox gets whacked by me for the strength of their bias and their feigned innocence about it.

the Wall Street Journal is owned by Rupert Murdoch too, and there's a similar bias. The direction is similar but the intensity is not close. And the acknowledgment is not close. Thererfore, I trust WSJ for NEWS far far more than I do Fox.
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Old 02-01-2011, 05:09 PM   #6
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No, I don't take issue with your assessments, although I think many people hate the FN opinion shows so deeply that they apply their filter to the regular news hours.

When I was watching cable for news I would turn on CNN, wait for something I believed was biased, and then switch to FN and do the same. The most educational moments were those where I switched and the other channel was covering the same news story, often with the same narrative.
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Old 02-02-2011, 09:43 AM   #7
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Ever notice how

its the countries

with the least bacon

that are always rioting?
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Old 02-02-2011, 09:58 AM   #8
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I hadn't. But now that you mention it, there's clearly a correlation.
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Old 02-02-2011, 10:00 AM   #9
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Clearly we're seeing causation not correlation.
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Old 02-02-2011, 06:18 PM   #10
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Ever notice how
its the countries
with the least bacon
that are always rioting?
Which explains why Kosher nations are constantly in riot.
(Oh. That is also called Jewish comedy. Explains all the violence in Blazing Saddles.)
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Old 02-02-2011, 06:29 PM   #11
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Yeah. You can't trust a guy who punches out an innocent horse.
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Old 02-02-2011, 12:10 PM   #12
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Anderson Cooper was set upon by Pro-Mubarak thugs.

My favorite comment on the page:

It's all fun and games until Anderson Cooper gets punched in the face. Now it's for real!
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Old 02-02-2011, 10:20 PM   #13
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A few days Late as I Heard The Gubment turned the Net and cell phones back on ,
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Old 02-03-2011, 05:49 AM   #14
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The conversation about news media brought this to mind:



This is from Charlie Brooker's Newswipe, a short run series of weekly programmes analysing news reportage and general trends in news media, drawing from both current and historical sources. This looks at some stylistic differences between UK and US news. In case you think any of it is anti-American, he is equally savage elsewhere in the show about UK news , which is his primary target for the series.
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Old 02-03-2011, 09:13 AM   #15
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That was great Dana!
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