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Economy loses 85K jobs as employers remain wary]
Employers cut more jobs than expected in December, unemployment rate holds at 10 percent Quote:
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Revisions to the previous two months' data showed the economy actually generated 4,000 jobs in November, the first gain in nearly two years. But the revisions showed it also lost 16,000 more jobs than previously estimated in October.
The report caps a disastrous year for U.S. workers. Employers cut 4.2 million jobs in 2009 We lost 4.2 million jobs last year but gained 4,000 jobs!? That's recovery? |
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No. But they want you to think it is.
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Demoncrats buy the union vote...
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ha!
we were looking at the same article! I'm just slow. I need to change my user title. |
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sky.....You can look at one year or look at the larger issue:
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Many economists are of the opinion that the recovery plan, even in the first 9 months of a 18-24 month plan, have contributed to slowing down that spiral. No one would suggest that the economy could be turned around over night, but most measures, except employment (always the last to recover) show improvement in the last nine months. Most of the recovery money has yet to be spent (by intent) and is directed towards retooling the economy by focusing on developing new energy technologies, a national broadband network, wide spread infrastructure improvement, investments in health technology, investments in education...all critical if you're interest is looking forward to be better positioned to compete in a global economy in which we may have lost the competitive edge that we enjoyed for decades. The massive tax cuts in 01 and 03, mostly for the top bracket and at a cost of more than $1 trillion, certainly didnt lead to economic prosperity for most Americans as was promised or transform the economy to a more forward thinking plain. So, what would you have suggested doing differently? Last edited by Redux; 01-09-2010 at 12:12 AM. |
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It might be neat to actually make something in the States. Our wrong-headed education system is part of the problem. Real shop classes where kids build stuff are being eliminated in favor of No Child Left Behind nonsense. Kids don't use their hands at school anymore because they're being prepared for an economy that does not exist. I think I'm going to invest in welding equipment for my daughters...
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Let's have a good 20% of the school year from age 13-17 be spent learning things we must actually do. Driving, personal finances, wood shop, cooking class, basic electric/plumbing/HVAC, and sex education.
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I always wished I had the opportunity to do mechanical work instead of home economics. Even recently I wish I had a lathe I would make canes and bird houses. Welding would be another useful skill except the bird houses would be kinda wet and heavy. :p |
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John Ratzenberger (yes, the actor who played Cliff Clavin on Cheers) was talking about this in the most recent issue of Make magazine. He's pushing this idea of an "Industrial Tsunami" that's about to hit the United States. He says that the average age of skilled workers like welders, carpenters, rebar setters, etc. is in the upper 50, and that virtually nobody is training to replace them. When they all retire, he basically argues that the US is screwed. There are plenty of unskilled helpers out there, but skilled workers are very hard to find.
After reading that article, I was toying with the idea of getting a welding rig so I could teach my kids how to weld. (And learn myself.) I settled for buying snap circuits for them. |
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Wal-Mart is example of where America does work. Wal-Mart constantly learns what and how products are manufactured. As a Wal-Mart supplier, if you are not doing your job (ie RubberMaid), then an informed Wal-Mart pressures you even to the point of bankruptcy. Wal-Mart is where America works.
Why did Wal-Mart discover incandescent bulbs made no sense? Because Wal-Mart learned how the work gets done AND demanded companies change immediately to provide innovative products. GE refused. So Wal-Mart cut GE off; went to Phillips who offered to innovate. Suddenly GE started making light bulbs that consumed seven times less energy. America that works is a country that innovates. And that is the problem. Not that American has insufficient welders and carpenters. The problem is that America has too many students that are communication and business school graduates. People who can only promote the status quo; who have so little experience as to never even see an innovation until long after it is no longer innovative. The problem is already appearing in patches. General Motors that will not innovate until required to by Federal regulations. Silicon Valley that cannot find technically (computer literate) knowledgeable Americans. Silicon Valley is where ICs are important. ICs - the most common employee is now a Chinese or Indian immigrant. Some benchmarks for technical ignorance. Show me a computer repairman who knows how electricity works? Rather than use a volt meter to identify a defective power system component, the naive computer tech will foolishly keep swapping parts until something works. A problem demonstrated by Consumer Reports that could not get simplest computer problems fixed properly. Often starting by swapping the power supply - because he has no technical knowledge. So naive that he considers himself an expert only because he can swap parts. Another benchmark - do you have a surge protector on your computer? Then you have made computer damage even easier. How many buy a surge protector only because they were told (ordered - blindly believed) to - rather than first ask questions such as what does it do? Another example of America that does not train people how to think. That only rewards those to promote the status quo. The only thing that creates jobs is innovation. The only thing. |
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![]() btw, I better buy more incandesant bulbs before those fuckers at walmart force me to use bulbs I don't like, don't want and won't work on my dimmers. ![]()
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