Soro's the new Cheney?

[classicman]

Originally Posted by Brianna

and Cheney---he's not considered extreme? Hmmmmm. Interesting.

Yes he is, but Cheney was elected.

Originally Posted by Pico and ME

What elements of of the Center for American Progress are extreme, Classic? And they are being used by the president for ideas...thats a little different than being 'advised'. But even so, I still dont get how they are far left and radical. What is far left and radical to you?

Soros for one. Yes it is different, on that we agree. Anything far left/liberal from the mainstream views of most Americans.

[Pico and ME]

Well thanks for that non-answer. I was hoping for something a little more enlightening from you...like examples of those far left views that CAP would represent. Oh, and what is so extreme about Soros? Is it just that he spent a lot of money trying to defeat Bush?

[Pico and ME]

Classic?

I'm guessing you don't want to share anymore? I only ask because I'm pretty tired of the radical left label being flung around willy nilly without any real qualification for what it means in the real world. I was hoping to gain some insight into how you define it. I'm concerned that it is used too easily as a way to discredit everyday liberal ideas.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Pico and ME

Classic?

I'm guessing you don't want to share anymore? I only ask because I'm pretty tired of the radical left label being flung around willy nilly without any real qualification for what it means in the real world. I was hoping to gain some insight into how you define it. I'm concerned that it is used too easily as a way to discredit everyday liberal ideas.

Oh the irony...

Here, let's try this:

I only ask because I'm pretty tired of the radical right label being flung around willy nilly without any real qualification for what it means in the real world. I was hoping to gain some insight into how you define it. I'm concerned that it is used too easily as a way to discredit everyday conservative ideas.

[classicman]

Nope, I guess I'm just one of the many ill or uninformed. I apparently have no fucking idea what I am thinking or saying. I'm pretty fed the fuck up right about now to be honest. Therefore, I don't want to share anymore - thanks for asking though.

[TheMercenary]

Sounds like Huffington is looking for a night in the Lincoln Bedroom.

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/to...cle5201252.ece

[Pico and ME]

I wouldn't characterize most of what I see of the right wing as radical or extreme. Maybe the only ones I do are the religious right who campaign for prayer back in the school and stuff or those way out factions who attact the skinhead types.

Im not saying that the right hasnt been maligned by the left, however, it just seems to me that a lot righties like to use that radical extemist lefty label as a way to denigrate liberalism out of hand.

[TheMercenary]

The detractors from either side use both terms with equal veracity.

[Pico and ME]

Well, so, all I wanted was what parameters/characteristics you use when you use the 'radical extremist' label, especially when you use it to describe Soros or The CAP. Then, I might have a better idea why you think its not a good idea for Obama to use them for ideas.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Pico and ME

Well, so, all I wanted was what parameters/characteristics you use when you use the 'radical extremist' label, especially when you use it to describe Soros or The CAP. Then, I might have a better idea why you think its not a good idea for Obama to use them for ideas.

He is an extremely controversial figure with some very shady history. He was convicted of insider trading. For me it is the statements Soros made about the president and the way he used his billions to make commercials that were false and misleading to appeal to a liberal mindset. You can look them up if you are interested. Soro's has one goal in mind - how to make more money. Look at his overseas deals to get an idea. He has cloaked much of his business deals by giving a lot of money to some very good causes and he should be commended for that much. I don't trust him, his intentions, or his organizations.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...s_/ai_20191344

http://www.aim.org/aim-report/aim-re...os-gate-may-b/


Let's play devils advocate and flip a page in time. If a multi-billionare conservative came out in public and said, "I will spend all of my money and time to defeat Obama at any cost. It is a life and death issue."

What would be the reaction of the people that voted for Obama?

And if that billionare made commercials that linked Obama to Hitler and ran them on the tv? What kind of response would you get from Obama's supporters?

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=36577

[sugarpop]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

He is an extremely controversial figure with some very shady history. He was convicted of insider trading. For me it is the statements Soros made about the president and the way he used his billions to make commercials that were false and misleading to appeal to a liberal mindset. You can look them up if you are interested. Soro's has one goal in mind - how to make more money. Look at his overseas deals to get an idea. He has cloaked much of his business deals by giving a lot of money to some very good causes and he should be commended for that much. I don't trust him, his intentions, or his organizations.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...s_/ai_20191344

http://www.aim.org/aim-report/aim-re...os-gate-may-b/


Let's play devils advocate and flip a page in time. If a multi-billionare conservative came out in public and said, "I will spend all of my money and time to defeat Obama at any cost. It is a life and death issue."

What would be the reaction of the people that voted for Obama?

And if that billionare made commercials that linked Obama to Hitler and ran them on the tv? What kind of response would you get from Obama's supporters?

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=36577

WOW. So he supports legalizing weed and euthanaisia and needle exchange programs. Damn whacko liberal.

If he has broken any laws regarding the way he does business, then he should be prosecuted. From what I read, it sounds like he took advantage of deregulation around banking and investment laws in various countries. Those laws need to be changed and we need to put serious regulation, transparency and oversight back into the world monetary systems, because that is why the world economy is in trouble now. Not the same thing he did, but similar.

Truth be told, I am not comfortable with ANYONE having as much money as these people (Soros, Gates, Buffet, etc. and all the executives on Wall Street who caused the crash). The truth is, anyone with that kind of money has likely done shady and illegal (or at least immoral) things in order to get that money. Money corrupts, don'tcha know? Especially large sums of it. At least he does something good with some of it.

[Pico and ME]

Bush is gone now, which means so is Soros's pet peeve.

What does extreme radical left mean to you?

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Pico and ME

Bush is gone now, which means so is Soros's pet peeve.

What does extreme radical left mean to you?

Just because Bush is gone does not mean you can ignore Soro's past misdeeds. He is a radical individual with radical ideas about government.

[Pico and ME]

What are they? You're not going to get yourself pinned down, are you.

And I don't necessarily consider his fight to get rid of Bush a misdeed.

[TheMercenary]

read the links.