Should IQ be a requirement?

[freshnesschronic]

EQ > IQ I always say.

A sky breaching IQ with no EQ (emotional quotient [people skills and the like]) is useless. But even someone with low IQ but high EQ can go far. Very far.

[Shawnee123]

People who are really smart, but are not sensitive to others, rise to the top and dont care who gets hurt on the way.

People who are really dumb, but have great sensitivity don't rise to the top, but they don't care about that because they're too dumb to know the difference, and people like them because they're so nice.

People who are really smart and really sensitive are fucked.

Nope just skill and aptitude. IQ tests are just tricks and tell you nothing.
Someone raised on a farm will test very low on IQ tests yet may be a genius, the questions are based on "common" knowledge.
Shows those who came up with them must have had low "IQ"s.

If I am honest on an IQ test I do pretty well, around 170-175, but if I decide to give answers that I know the test "wants" I get insanely high scores.

Both tests are the same in this respect.

Someone may have an aptitude that has nothing to do with their general knowlege... it is a ridiculous idea.

[Perry Winkle]

Originally Posted by rkzenrage

If I am honest on an IQ test I do pretty well, around 170-175, but if I decide to give answers that I know the test "wants" I get insanely high scores.

I guess that explains how you've mastered (what seems like) practically every profession known to man. At the low end you claim to be a genius, at the top end you claim to be a "profound genius" or a savant.

Originally Posted by Perry Winkle

I guess that explains how you've mastered (what seems like) practically every profession known to man. At the low end you claim to be a genius, at the top end you claim to be a "profound genius" or a savant.

Did you read what I wrote at all? Seems to be an issue lately, the test is just a game. I claim nothing more than what I have stated before.
I think I am slightly above average in intelligence, with some problems with dyslexia that is overcome with a very strong memory.
I have stated this before.

[Perry Winkle]

Originally Posted by rkzenrage

Did you read what I wrote at all? Seems to be an issue lately, the test is just a game. I claim nothing more than what I have stated before.
I think I am slightly above average in intelligence, with some problems with dyslexia that is overcome with a very strong memory.
I have stated this before.

It was a joke, man.

You made a claim about your IQ, in terms of that test your IQ makes claims about you. That's all I was saying.

[busterb]

Originally Posted by Perry Winkle

I guess that explains how you've mastered (what seems like) practically every profession known to man. At the low end you claim to be a genius, at the top end you claim to be a "profound genius" or a savant.

No. Thats called nepotism.

[lumberjim]

Originally Posted by rkzenrage

Nope just skill and aptitude. IQ tests are just tricks and tell you nothing.
Someone raised on a farm will test very low on IQ tests yet may be a genius, the questions are based on "common" knowledge.
Shows those who came up with them must have had low "IQ"s.

If I am honest on an IQ test I do pretty well, around 170-175, but if I decide to give answers that I know the test "wants" I get insanely high scores.

Both tests are the same in this respect.

Someone may have an aptitude that has nothing to do with their general knowlege... it is a ridiculous idea.

maybe i didnt understand what you meant by honest.

Originally Posted by lumberjim

maybe i didnt understand what you meant by honest.

If I answer the questions with what I really think and feel (remember I have unusual ideas about eating and other things based on being raised on a farm and intimate knowledge about how humans think having studied human thought processes though an advanced degree in acting... I don't go through the same steps as most to reach an end as many) insead of what I know the tests are geared to see as "intelligent".
Some of the simpler questions like "how does one get eggs" for me can be "go into the back yard", I know that will skew the score low, so I change the answer.
I also answer questions very intellectually because I take certain steps logically that most take emotion into account... that is not a sign of intelligence. It has to do with abuse, rape and other things that have happened to me. The test "sees" this as intelligence, it is not, not by a long shot.
I have learned tricks to overcome my dyslexia, I am still just as dyslexic and have just as many problems with numbers and spelling as others and with practical application have a hard time and have to study much more than most, but can test my ass off. Again, not intelligence, I just know how to play the game.
This is why the Mensa meetings disgusted me so much, people who think a skill-set made them something/someone special are pathetic little animals.
I have known people with almost no education, who had very few social skills, some who were mentally disabled in some areas... but had TRUE wisdom that I, to this day, work toward and try to emulate... that I envy.
Again, those tests are a game, set up by people with little egos who want to separate people who are like them so they can say "see, I am better than others" and they are for NOTHING else and serve NO OTHER purpose.

[Yznhymr]

Saw this article...breakdown that states IQ gives a good indication of the occupational group that a person will end up in, with a list of general categories for a certain IQ level.

Sorry, did not detect the sarcasm.

[Perry Winkle]

Originally Posted by rkzenrage

Sorry, did not detect the sarcasm.

The basis of my fun poking was that you have a couple of distinct characteristics to what you post: one is that you always seem to have done any profession anyone brings up (I said seems, i.e., a perception not necessarily a fact); another is your persistent statement that someone has not read what you said or that someone is putting words in your mouth, regardless of how apparent it is that this has, in fact, not happened. (It's weird, you often do this whether they are mostly agreeing with you or not. I think it's a perception of being misunderstood.)

Originally Posted by Perry Winkle

The basis of my fun poking was that you have a couple of distinct characteristics to what you post: one is that you always seem to have done any profession anyone brings up (I said seems, i.e., a perception not necessarily a fact); another is your persistent statement that someone has not read what you said or that someone is putting words in your mouth, regardless of how apparent it is that this has, in fact, not happened. (It's weird, you often do this whether they are mostly agreeing with you or not. I think it's a perception of being misunderstood.)

I have never stated that I have done a job I have not done.
Name one that you question and I will do my best to scan documentation or a photo.
I resent the implication, it is sad of you... I am not surprised however.
Lending my perception to a conversation based on something I experienced being viewed by you as making a statement beyond exactly what I am writing is on you and your issue alone.
As stated above, if someone states that my post carries meaning not stated in the post, that it is only their personal assumption is a fact, nothing more.
It is not about being misunderstood, it is about people who choose not to separate their ego from other's statements.

[Perry Winkle]

Originally Posted by rkzenrage

I have never stated that I have done a job I have not done.

I never said nor had such a thought.

Originally Posted by rkzenrage

I resent the implication, it is sad of you... I am not surprised however.

I didn't make any implications. I was explaining my humor as a reflection of my own perceptions and as a verifiable fact (a fact founded on the set of your posts that I have read, which is far from all of them).

Originally Posted by rkzenrage

Lending my perception to a conversation based on something I experienced being viewed by you as making a statement beyond exactly what I am writing is on you and your issue alone.

It took me a couple minutes to parse that sentence. But I have to agree. If I see a message to what you say that isn't explicitly stated, you didn't say it.

Gotcha... pot. kettle. black. At least I don't get all reactionary about it when it someone does it to me, or when I perceive that they've done it to me.

Originally Posted by rkzenrage

It is not about being misunderstood, it is about people who choose not to separate their ego from other's statements.

Which causes misunderstanding.

[lumberjim]

Nah, I think he's full of shit too.