NFL Should Dump Vick - Page 3

freshnesschronic · 07-20-2007, 03:05 PM

Sorry for feeling differently than everyone else. But no PETA activists are going to change my view on animals, it is my own.
Yes, I guess in the states it's a crime but like the point mentioned above it has no grounds for banning him from football. That's what this thread is about initially, isn't it?

And about the race card, so sorry I am a minority therefore know nothing about the racism, all the white people know so much more about it. All white people in America have no right to talk about how I deal with race, you all have absolutely no idea about being a minority so I suggest you shut the fuck up because no argument can enlighten anyone on being a minority UNLESS you are a minority.
And if you guys found out stuff about the indictment you'd know that blacks and whites are lining up on opposite sides once again.

Shawnee123 · 07-20-2007, 03:12 PM

You don't know my heritage, so you just shut the fuck up.

You're way out of your league, here.

Work on your post. The passive-aggressive way you have of starting out anything you know will be controversial ("sorry I feel differently. Sorry I'm a minority") won't get you far. Surely you learned this in freshman comp?

Oh, and not believing God put animals on earth for abuse is a far cry from PETA.

I bet you made a lot of friends today.

yesman065 · 07-20-2007, 03:09 PM

I'm sure THEY are! I'm not one of them though - and since you feel the right to tell me to shut the fuck up - why don't you tell me what race I am you punk ass little bitch. Get it right and I'll leave you be.

freshnesschronic · 07-20-2007, 03:24 PM

I don't give a shit about friends on the cellar. This is an internet forum for discussing with people I will never meet nor plan to. This place does not ruin my day at work if an angry women calls me a fucking moron. There might be plenty of people who probably feel the same way about her here and in real life. Same goes for me, but I'm not gonna get my panties in a bunch about an INTERNET FORUM.
Some black people feel dog fighting is fine. Why? Because that is their culture, raised around rotts and pits for protection in the inner city; opposite from other peoples. Does that make them all inhumane animal torturers? That's for you to decide I guess, since I'm obviously not allowed to make any statements around here.

I'm not going to talk about race anymore because obviously no one thinks I've been through racism at the tender age of 19.

Since I'm such a bad poster here goes:

Vick should not be banned. Dog fighting has nothing to do with football. The NFL should not get involved. If the Falcons want to that is the choice they make for their own interest.

I wouldn't be surprised if when the regular season started MILLIONS of fans wave posters at Falcon games saying "SAVE MICHAEL VICK". I'll be one of them.

Shawnee123 · 07-20-2007, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Since I'm such a bad poster here

equals: sorry I'm such a bad poster, BUT...(watch the PA, dearie.)

Quote:

This place does not ruin my day at work if an angry women calls me a fucking moron

Unfortunately, I am only ONE woman. Many a man has wished for multiple copies so there is more to go around. Anyway, what does my gender have to do with anything? Are you sexist. Is it OK to be sexist or racist when it suits you?

Quote:

Some black people feel dog fighting is fine. Why? Because that is their culture, raised around rotts and pits for protection in the inner city; opposite from other peoples. Does that make them all inhumane animal torturers?

It makes those who feel dog fighting is fine inhumane animal torturers. Quit putting race into this, when you know it is irrelevant.

Quote:

That's for you to decide I guess, since I'm obviously not allowed to make any statements around here.

= just more Passive-Aggressive debate tactics. You should run for office.

freshnesschronic · 07-20-2007, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shawnee123

Unfortunately, I am only ONE woman. Many a man has wished for multiple copies so there is more to go around. Anyway, what does my gender have to do with anything? Are you sexist. Is it OK to be sexist or racist when it suits you?

It makes those who feel dog fighting is fine inhumane animal torturers. Quit putting race into this, when you know it is irrelevant.

I never mentioned your sex having anything to do with it. I called you out as being an angry woman. Disagree?

Race is a big thing in this, have you been watching the issue on TV? I hate it when people judge things way before they know anything about it.

glatt · 07-20-2007, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freshnesschronic

Race is a big thing in this, have you been watching the issue on TV? I hate it when people judge things way before they know anything about it.

Why should anyone have to research what others think about an issue before they chime in with their own opinion?

Flint · 07-21-2007, 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freshnesschronic

Race is a big thing in this, have you been watching the issue on TV?

Quote:

Originally Posted by glatt

Why should anyone have to research what others think about an issue before they chime in with their own opinion?

As appaling as your callous attitude towards animal cruelty is, it is perhaps even worse that your TV told you what to think about this issue, and you believed it. Apparently, you got worked up about race because of flashy, sensationalistic journalism. You've been "played" by the media.

Quote:

Originally Posted by freshnesschronic

I bet you didn't even watch the video I posted about haters.

That video doesn't make any sense whatsoever. It's fucking stupid. If you think that video "says something" then you must be fucking stupid.

So far, you've regurgitated an opinion you heard on TV, and you've rebutted with a video of a comedian. Don't you have any opinions of your own?

Bullitt · 07-20-2007, 03:52 PM

Race is a big issue in this because people have brought it in. It has no place there.
The basics of it are this: He is being investigated due to the reasonable suspicion that he has been involved with underground dog fighting, which last time I checked is illegal in the United States.

Period.

The civil penalties ride with the court's decision. This being fines, community service, possible jail time even. His penalties in regards to his profession as a pro football player for the NFL are determined by the league, to whom he answers. If they have rules and regulations determining players' behavior off the field, then he ought to have abided by them. If he thinks that certain actions do not fall under such jurisdiction, then he needs to take that up with the league and get rules changed. Whatever the league rules say about off field behavior stands regardless, and he is bound by them by being a pro football player in the NFL.

By being a signed member of an organization such as the NFL, you are bound by their rules and regulations. If you don't like it, get the rules changed or don't be a member.

End.

Of.

Story.

Culture, race, minority have nothing to do with this case. And yes fresh I know what it is like to be a minority even though am white. To say that no white person can comment on what it's like to be a minority is ignorant, sorry. Being a minority is dependent upon your surroundings. I was a minority when I was working in Panama, and yes I did get treated suspiciously and with prejudice by the some of the native Panamanian people I met at random. They counted my money to make sure I didn't short change them, cut me in line, ignored me ought right a few times, and had that "look" on their faces when they looked at me. *Disclaimer* Panama is a wonderful place, do not hesitate to go there if given the opportunity. The culture is nothing like the United States and you feel more than welcomed by 90% of the people you meet.

yesman065 · 07-20-2007, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freshnesschronic

I never mentioned your sex having anything to do with it. I called you out as being an angry woman. Disagree?

I don't - and she has every right to be just like several others here. Funny you attacked the one woman who spoke out against you and no one else. (Pussy)

Quote:

Originally Posted by freshnesschronic

Race is a big thing in this, have you been watching the issue on TV? I hate it when people judge things way before they know anything about it.

Racism itself IS an issue, but this thread is NOT about that - its about animal cruelty and the repercussions of participating in it.

You may try to twist it into being about race cuz thats a big thing, as I'm sure it is on tv - lemme tell you why - RACE SELLS They are marketing racism to ignorant, uninformed, apathetic dickheads and you keep sucking it up every time.

Quote:

Originally Posted by freshnesschronic

I hate it when people judge things way before they know anything about it.

Look who the fuck is talking - Are you serious or just seriously deranged?? Never mind - I know - - - -BOTH.

Flint · 07-20-2007, 03:46 PM

:::reads through this thread for the first time:::

Wow! ... that's what I get for ignoring the Sports forum ...

Flint · 07-20-2007, 03:54 PM

Fuck cultural differences. I suppose I'm a white-ass racist whitey for saying this, but: FUCK YOU and FUCK your "cultural differences" ...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bullitt

Even if there is a cultural difference there guess what.. you're a citizen of the United States and enjoy all the privilege that comes with that. So in turn, you are bound to the laws of this country whether you like it or not. Don't like the law? Do something about it to get it changed or GTFO.

freshnesschronic · 07-20-2007, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flint

Fuck cultural differences. I suppose I'm a white-ass racist whitey for saying this, but: FUCK YOU and FUCK your "cultural differences" ...

Ah, a true gentleman. This is the kind of person that I would like to see less of in our melting pot country.

lumberjim · 07-20-2007, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smurf

torturing an animal for pleasure - cocks, dogs, pigs, cows, birds, WHATEVER - is sociopathic behavior.

pleeeeeze don't torture my cock.

Flint · 07-20-2007, 04:11 PM

Quote:

Everyone who has previously posted holds a cultural bias. Well duh, so do I. But many African Americans don't feel the same way about animals. The debate said many football players said "Man, it's just some dogs, man." That's how I believe too, it's just some dogs.

You're not concerned about the difference between right and wrong, simply what is acceptable in a cultural setting? Okay, fine. You wanna do that across the board? In any era, in any culture, let's even go so far as to say things that are technically legal.

Let's start with a recent example, from American history. Hmmm... things that were legal to do, and that some people saw nothing wrong with, but caused horrible suffering for others. Can you think of anything?

As long as any cultural subset believes that an activity is okay to do, then the activity is excusable? It becomes a non-issue? The ones who disagree simply lack the proper cultural perspective? Man, are you sure about that?

07-20-2007, 03:12 PM	#2
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	You don't know my heritage, so you just shut the fuck up. You're way out of your league, here. Work on your post. The passive-aggressive way you have of starting out anything you know will be controversial ("sorry I feel differently. Sorry I'm a minority") won't get you far. Surely you learned this in freshman comp? Oh, and not believing God put animals on earth for abuse is a far cry from PETA. I bet you made a lot of friends today. __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

07-20-2007, 03:52 PM	#9
Bullitt This is a fully functional babe lair Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Akron, OH Posts: 2,324	Race is a big issue in this because people have brought it in. It has no place there. The basics of it are this: He is being investigated due to the reasonable suspicion that he has been involved with underground dog fighting, which last time I checked is illegal in the United States. Period. The civil penalties ride with the court's decision. This being fines, community service, possible jail time even. His penalties in regards to his profession as a pro football player for the NFL are determined by the league, to whom he answers. If they have rules and regulations determining players' behavior off the field, then he ought to have abided by them. If he thinks that certain actions do not fall under such jurisdiction, then he needs to take that up with the league and get rules changed. Whatever the league rules say about off field behavior stands regardless, and he is bound by them by being a pro football player in the NFL. By being a signed member of an organization such as the NFL, you are bound by their rules and regulations. If you don't like it, get the rules changed or don't be a member. End. Of. Story. Culture, race, minority have nothing to do with this case. And yes fresh I know what it is like to be a minority even though am white. To say that no white person can comment on what it's like to be a minority is ignorant, sorry. Being a minority is dependent upon your surroundings. I was a minority when I was working in Panama, and yes I did get treated suspiciously and with prejudice by the some of the native Panamanian people I met at random. They counted my money to make sure I didn't short change them, cut me in line, ignored me ought right a few times, and had that "look" on their faces when they looked at me. Disclaimer Panama is a wonderful place, do not hesitate to go there if given the opportunity. The culture is nothing like the United States and you feel more than welcomed by 90% of the people you meet. __________________ Kiss my white Irish ass. Last edited by Bullitt; 07-20-2007 at 04:00 PM.

07-20-2007, 03:46 PM	#11
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	:::reads through this thread for the first time::: Wow! ... that's what I get for ignoring the Sports forum ... __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Switch to Linear Mode Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode

07-20-2007, 03:05 PM	#1
freshnesschronic Professor Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,555	Sorry for feeling differently than everyone else. But no PETA activists are going to change my view on animals, it is my own. Yes, I guess in the states it's a crime but like the point mentioned above it has no grounds for banning him from football. That's what this thread is about initially, isn't it? And about the race card, so sorry I am a minority therefore know nothing about the racism, all the white people know so much more about it. All white people in America have no right to talk about how I deal with race, you all have absolutely no idea about being a minority so I suggest you shut the fuck up because no argument can enlighten anyone on being a minority UNLESS you are a minority. And if you guys found out stuff about the indictment you'd know that blacks and whites are lining up on opposite sides once again.

07-20-2007, 03:09 PM	#3
yesman065 Banned - Self Imposed Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,847	I'm sure THEY are! I'm not one of them though - and since you feel the right to tell me to shut the fuck up - why don't you tell me what race I am you punk ass little bitch. Get it right and I'll leave you be.

07-20-2007, 03:24 PM	#4
freshnesschronic Professor Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,555	I don't give a shit about friends on the cellar. This is an internet forum for discussing with people I will never meet nor plan to. This place does not ruin my day at work if an angry women calls me a fucking moron. There might be plenty of people who probably feel the same way about her here and in real life. Same goes for me, but I'm not gonna get my panties in a bunch about an INTERNET FORUM. Some black people feel dog fighting is fine. Why? Because that is their culture, raised around rotts and pits for protection in the inner city; opposite from other peoples. Does that make them all inhumane animal torturers? That's for you to decide I guess, since I'm obviously not allowed to make any statements around here. I'm not going to talk about race anymore because obviously no one thinks I've been through racism at the tender age of 19. Since I'm such a bad poster here goes: Vick should not be banned. Dog fighting has nothing to do with football. The NFL should not get involved. If the Falcons want to that is the choice they make for their own interest. I wouldn't be surprised if when the regular season started MILLIONS of fans wave posters at Falcon games saying "SAVE MICHAEL VICK". I'll be one of them.

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)