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Old 04-20-2007, 11:49 PM   #1
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They have the same number of rights as fathers.
What are you talking about?
No, they have more. Lots more. Talk to any divorced father and you will have a PhD in mother's rights in about five minutes.
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Old 04-21-2007, 12:24 AM   #2
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I heard the full call on Glenn Beck's show this morning.

I consider it proof that some people shouldn't breed.

Chances are that the child at 12 is more mature than both of her parents.
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Old 04-21-2007, 12:27 AM   #3
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Chances are that the child at 12 is more mature than both of her parents.
There is a steep price for early maturity.
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Old 04-22-2007, 06:56 AM   #4
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I've been a parent for nearly 11yrs now and I have never spoken to my kids with such malice. It's fairly obvious he was pissed off with his daughter, but geez, she's just a kid for christs sake. You just don't put shit like that on your kids. It's not that he called her a pig multiple times. It's that he would leave a message on her phone saying it. If I was that mad at my kids I'd never say something like that on a message. I'd want to be standing in front of them and explaining exactly what it is I was angry about. Not just resorting to pathetic namecalling because I'd lost my cool.

It's just not good form.
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Old 04-22-2007, 03:54 PM   #5
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The daughter released the phone message. I will lay money on it. Just you wait and see.
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Old 04-22-2007, 06:16 PM   #6
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The daughter released the phone message. I will lay money on it. Just you wait and see.
You think an 11 year old contacted the press??? So mommy never knew until she released it? Maybe mommy should get some spyware.
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Old 04-22-2007, 07:36 PM   #7
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An 11-year-old daughter of two very famous celebrities? "Media savvy" would only be the tip of the iceberg.
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Old 04-23-2007, 09:29 AM   #8
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While I accept that people can lose their tempers and parenting is an incredibly hard job (and one I have chosen not to take up so far because of my personality) I don't think it was an appropriate message to leave on an 11 year old's phone.

Any parent that lowers themself to the level of the child will lose respect very quickly. Calling her a pig on an answerphone is not the same as losing it when she is standing in front of him and saying it in the heat of the moment. I only heard the message once, but I certainly thought the tone was threatening - when he said that he would be seeing her soon (a week I think) and they were going to have it out face to face. Then again I was listening to it from my personal point of view of a daughter - if my Daddy had ever left me a message like that it would have provoked a near-hysterical reaction on my part. Perhaps that's because my father was slow to anger and wasn't prone to over-reaction.

It does seem a shame that with all the effectively fatherless children out there, a man who probably loves his daughter very much is pushed beyond reason by not being allowed an open relationship with her. But I agree that he should get some help before being able to contact her again.
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Old 04-23-2007, 05:19 PM   #9
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http://emuse.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/19508
Hollywood effect.
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Old 04-23-2007, 10:19 PM   #10
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Anybody else think Baldwin was high on something when he made the call?

Meanwhile, I'm remembering what Kim Jong-Il sang about Alec Baldwin in Team America: World Police.

And the guy never did use that plane ticket to "leave the country" as he said he would...
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Old 04-24-2007, 03:55 PM   #11
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He sounded drunk or high and if she is in a fight to protect her child from him it is smart, right a good idea to expose him for the man he IS.
If he does not want people to know he is an abuser he should not abuse. It is very simple.
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Old 04-24-2007, 03:57 PM   #12
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Ms Basinger claims she did not release the tape. Wonder who did it? I bet Clodfobble was right when she said the daughter.
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Old 04-24-2007, 03:59 PM   #13
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Either way... I have no issue with it. It is the truth.
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Old 04-24-2007, 04:15 PM   #14
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Either way... I have no issue with it. It is the truth.
It is one piece of the truth. You haven't heard the rest of the truth, and don't know if this piece of the truth is representative of the whole.
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Old 04-24-2007, 04:01 PM   #15
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I guess that's true. I reacted too suddenly to the whole thing at first because I have no respect for Kim anyway...but an abusive person is an abusive person, and Alec sure sounded like one to me. Brings shudders.

And I always liked him in movies.
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