How to be a Bully.....online?

[anonymous]

I wrestled with the delusions of others and burnt out my thyroid.

[lumberjim]

Originally Posted by skysidhe

Most of you men are answering the question from an emotional perspective. You are saying you 'like the guy'

The question is he a bully? Does he intimidate?Does he use flamatory language against another? Does it enrage and or hurt another person?
Does he humiliate or shame a user? Does he try to expose supposed truths to a community by using hate speach to create conflict?

Can you say yes to any of those questions without getting your ass kissing in the way? Stop candy coating it. Like him if you want. Think he is funny if you want but stop trying to protect his feelings. He wants to be a kinder softer brute.

sky, i never said i wanted to be kinder or softer. I didn't say i wanted to change who i am. i just want to understand what specific reason some of you have for labeling me as a bully. maybe i'm just stuck on the word. i fully admit to occasionally being rude, and caustic, and maybe even a little mean sometimes. the whole bully thing involes fear, though. why would you be afraid of me?

You've mentioned exposing unknown truths as a form of bullying. could you elaborate on that? particularly, what makes it bullying?

[skysidhe]

Originally Posted by lumberjim

sky, i never said i wanted to be kinder or softer. I didn't say i wanted to change who i am. i just want to understand what specific reason some of you have for labeling me as a bully. maybe i'm just stuck on the word. i fully admit to occasionally being rude, and caustic, and maybe even a little mean sometimes. the whole bully thing involes fear, though. why would you be afraid of me?

You've mentioned exposing unknown truths as a form of bullying. could you elaborate on that? particularly, what makes it bullying?

RE:why would you be afraid of me?

No I am not afraid of you. I just don't want to fight. Do I not want to say what I really want to say for worry of being called a name? yes.

Do you call any of the guys names?? I don't recall.

RE: exposing unknown truths as a form of bullying.

I said

Originally Posted by skysidhe

Does he try to expose supposed truths to a community by using hate speach to create conflict?

I am refering to the co 2 poisoning and someother things Mari has said that you all have been trying to debunk. I know you are not alone in that thinking so excuse me for singling you out when others are just as quilty. As you say you can be meaner about it. Your word is respected so you can bring a persons character down on a message board if you want. You carry alot of weight so you should be more careful how you approach a matter? The difference between having tact and not?


Believe me I can be tactless but I am learning I think. Certain kinds of dry sacrasim which might be funny in real life dosn't translate in print so well. I can empathize but I would never single one person out for name calling and story telling in an effort to make them look like a lier even if they were.


{edited for spelling. In a hurry got to go to work}
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@ Clod.....Your story cracked me up!

[skysidhe]

Originally Posted by lumberjim

sky, i never said i wanted to be kinder or softer. I didn't say i wanted to change who i am. i just want to understand what specific reason some of you have for labeling me as a bully. maybe i'm just stuck on the word.

google : slander,libel, defamation, bully, psychological abuse,intimidation and see if you do any of those? Look for facts instead of peoples feelings?

Originally Posted by lumberjim

i fully admit to occasionally being rude, and caustic, and maybe even a little mean sometimes. the whole bully thing involes fear, though. why would you be afraid of me?

It's mine and others perception that you are a shit stirrer. You lie or at least eggagerate the offenses of those you are attacking. See above.

Originally Posted by lumberjim

actually, i was referring to this part:

i'm missing the leap from a to b

did you write that, or was it clipped from one of your links? (sorry, i'm a shit about following links)

I was looking up slander and libel. To understand why some of us call you a bully that would be the reason but since you don't want to change I doubt you will understand and frankly I just don't care any more. You are tiresome.

I am wondering why you posted in different colors the same as anonymous did. Is anonymous you? It must be I got two people posting in coded color for me which I find wierd. I pm anonymous and ask who they are and they say they are 'batman' wtf???? Must be you jumberjim.

This is my last post to you.

[anonymous]

jingle bells batman smells robin layed an eggagerate

[lumberjim]

Originally Posted by anonymous

jingle bells batman smells robin layed an eggagerate

and yet, this smacks of flint

Originally Posted by skysidhe

Most of you men are answering the question from an emotional perspective. You are saying you 'like the guy'

The question is he a bully? Does he intimidate?Does he use flamatory language against another? Does it enrage and or hurt another person?
Does he humiliate or shame a user? Does he try to expose supposed truths to a community by using hate speach to create conflict?

Can you say yes to any of those questions without getting your ass kissing in the way? Stop candy coating it. Like him if you want. Think he is funny if you want but stop trying to protect his feelings. He wants to be a kinder softer brute.

You cannot make another person feel anything, we choose our reactions.

[lookout123]

You are saying you 'like the guy'

The question is he a bully? Does he intimidate?

i think you missed the point some of the guys have made. A) we kind of like the prick. er, i mean guy. B) if he's a bully, he's not bad enough for me to notice or care.

every last cellarite has said something i find annoying or outrageous at some point (well, maybe not tw.) but i choose to ignore the stuff that is annoying to me and pay attention to what interests me.

[DanaC]

For me the sign of bullying is when a fairly large group start picking on someone in a fairly merciless way, long past the point when it has become apparent that their victim cannot handle it. It's that mob mentality that disturbs me, rather than any one individual post/poster.

[Iggy]

Well, seeing as how I am mostly a lurker, I feel I can objective. But I could be wrong... so bear with me.

I don't think LJ is a bully. He can be somewhat callous, but I don't think he does any of it to hurt others. He will cry bullshit on anyone he thinks deserves it, for various reasons. I see bullies as those that hurt others for no reason just to feel better about themselves.

If someone is playing the "poor me" card (or is just full of it), he will call them on it. That doesn't mean he is a bully. I think it sometimes makes me post better because I know if I am being a dumbass I will get called on it, which is a good thing to me. And he is a equal oppurtunity teaser which to me means that he doesn't single out certain people unless they do the same stuff time and time again. That isn't his fault.

Also, if he calls bullshit on someone, they take it personal and then keep saying how "LJ hates me" which just drags the arguement on and they usually try to make LJ out to be the bad guy. But I haven't been subjected to his teasing much since I don't post things that could be construed as full of bullshit or something similar. At least I do my best not to.

[Stormieweather]

I find myself agreeing with Rzkenrage (that seems to be happening a lot lately ).

My SO says that all humor is at someone's expense. There is no joke if there is no target. And yet, most people do enjoy humor and they laugh at jokes. We all have our areas of 'tetchiness', topics that trip our trigger, and obviously we'll find jokes about those topics much less funny than those that don't hit home.

I feel that humor makes the transition to bullying/meaness when it is overdone...goes too far, so to speak. Laughing at someone who has tripped can be funny, but continuing to make fun of them, imitate them, telling everyone you meet about their mishap, bringing it up whenever you see them...is NOT funny. This humor has crossed the line into maliciousness.

I am constantly reminding my son (18) not to take his humor too far. He is hilarious but he doesn't know when to stop. He doesn't recognize when his joke has become hurtful or painful to witness. I'm sure this is partly due to his lack of maturity.

Blah blah blah..so anyway, I don't get the feeling that LJ is a bully or mean. I've not been around all that long, but what I have seen, he is someone who isn't afraid to cut through the BS or speak his mind.

Stormie

Originally Posted by Stormieweather

I find myself agreeing with Rzkenrage (that seems to be happening a lot lately ).

My SO says that all humor is at someone's expense. There is no joke if there is no target. And yet, most people do enjoy humor and they laugh at jokes. We all have our areas of 'tetchiness', topics that trip our trigger, and obviously we'll find jokes about those topics much less funny than those that don't hit home.

I feel that humor makes the transition to bullying/meaness when it is overdone...goes too far, so to speak. Laughing at someone who has tripped can be funny, but continuing to make fun of them, imitate them, telling everyone you meet about their mishap, bringing it up whenever you see them...is NOT funny. This humor has crossed the line into maliciousness.

I am constantly reminding my son (18) not to take his humor too far. He is hilarious but he doesn't know when to stop. He doesn't recognize when his joke has become hurtful or painful to witness. I'm sure this is partly due to his lack of maturity.

Blah blah blah..so anyway, I don't get the feeling that LJ is a bully or mean. I've not been around all that long, but what I have seen, he is someone who isn't afraid to cut through the BS or speak his mind.

Stormie

Thanks. I agree with your addition.
I usually feel like most of my contributions are just ignored.

[Shawnee123]

LJ is just farking funny!

[lumberjim]

no, not me. i didnt send any pm's with the anon login. the colors i used were to point out 2 different points in the post, with out having to chop it all up.

i did see your reply when i changed the user title from 'online bully' to 'obvious'. i assumed it was she who is no longer here.

you seem like you're too angry to bother giving an objective answer. well, whatever. maybe you're just not all that nice. thanks for playing

[skysidhe]

Originally Posted by anonymous

jingle bells batman smells robin layed an eggagerate

lol