Egypt and Arab States circle toilet bowl

[Fair&Balanced]

Originally Posted by richlevy

....What I find twisted is that for propaganda purposes Muslim extremists are digging up myths about Jews that were started by European Christians centuries ago. Specifically blood libel, and I'm not talking about Sarah Palin.

I agree.

I just would not limit it to Muslim extremists. The anti-Muslim extremists in the US are guilty as well.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Fair&Balanced

I agree.

I just would not limit it to Muslim extremists. The anti-Muslim extremists in the US are guilty as well.

Have you proven Gellar is wrong?

[TheMercenary]

Do you have factual evidence to prove that elements of the Muslim Brotherhood are not involved in the direct support of CPAC?

[TheMercenary]

Looks like lots of people disagree... I don't know, but you have proven yourself to be partisan enough not to be trusted as a sole source.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/cpac...erhood-in-usa/

http://www.newsrealblog.com/2011/02/...rhood-at-cpac/

http://www.slate.com/blogs/blogs/wei...otherhood.aspx

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/02/da...d-at-cpac.html

http://thinkprogress.org/2011/02/13/gaffney-cpac/

Like I said, I have no idea. But given the Muslim Brotherhoods long history of supporting violence, something is up. And what you posted does not prove Gellar wrong. I lean toward not trusting the relationship between CPAC and the Muslim Brotherhood if one exists.

[TheMercenary]

Is this false? Were these things not stated?

Several accomplished military, terrorism and national security experts have long asserted that terrorists are covertly using Islamic Sharia law as a non-violent way to destroy the United States. A panel of highly regarded experts reiterated the assessment in a Saturday afternoon CPAC seminar called “The Sharia Challenge in the West.”

Former Central Intelligence Agency Director Jim Woolsey, a foreign policy specialist who has worked for both Democratic and Republican administrations, led the intriguing seminar. The United States is, not only at war with terrorists such as Al Qaeda and Hezbollah but also with those who, over the long run, want to impose Sharia law, Woolsey assured.

He defined Sharia as a “theocratic dictatorship extremely opposed to democracy” and a movement to “eliminate and destroy western civilization.” The biggest challenge in fighting it is America’s long tradition of tolerance towards all religions, he warned, pointing out that the radical Islamic group Muslim Brotherhood is largely behind the effort to bring Sharia to the U.S.

Ironically, Muslim Brotherhood affiliates sponsored a CPAC panel a day earlier to defend Islamic rights, building a mosque at Ground Zero and the overall mission of the group which is known as the parent organization of Hamas and Al Qaeda. Suhail Khan, a controversial figure with connections to Middle Eastern radicals, led the event which at times got heated. A few years ago Khan received an award from an Al Qaeda operative (Abdurahman Alamoudi) and the event was actually recorded in a video.

http://www.judicialwatch.org/about-us

[tw]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Is this false? Were these things not stated?

Your URL does not even cite what you are quoting. More interesting are the topics in that URL.
•Obama Accountability Project
•Illegal Immigration
•Investigating Obamacare
•Exposing ACORN
•Financial Crisis/Fannie-Freddie Investigation
•Pelosi Air Force Scandal
•Joe the Plumber Lawsuit
•Judicial Nominations Project
•DOJ Black Panther Voter Intimidation Case Dismissal Investigation

Every one a hot button spin issue for right wing extremists. When do you quote patriots - also called moderates?

[TheMercenary]

Mission Creep. We are not and should not be the worlds police force. Fuck them if they want to kill each other off.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...,6275441.story

[TheMercenary]

Where is Obama and the EU?

http://english.alarabiya.net/article...22/146329.html

[TheMercenary]

More on the killing of civilians in Syria.

http://reason.com/blog/2011/04/22/mo...d-in-syria-cen

Where are the drones?

[ZenGum]

The drones are busy watching Fox News.


Oh, those drones. They're bombing villages in Yemen and Pakistan.

[TheMercenary]

The Syrian Government continues to kill it's citizens via it's troops. Where is the Obama Rescue plan? Why is Syria more important than Libya?

Why the hell would Obamy allow continued trade with Syria?

[Uday]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

The Syrian Government continues to kill it's citizens via it's troops. Where is the Obama Rescue plan? Why is Syria more important than Libya?

Why the hell would Obamy allow continued trade with Syria?

Forgive my curiosity, but why is America so convinced that they are responsible for "rescuing" other nations? We have seen the "rescues" done since 1870 or so (WWII and the Korean war as notable exceptions). It may not be obvious, but maybe not everyone wants your "help", also because that help always involves "provisional government".

[Fair&Balanced]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Why the hell would Obamy allow continued trade with Syria?

Obama extended Bush's trade sanctions against Syria last year that are still in place. They expire next month and would need to be extended again, which I presume will happen.

He could also freeze Syrian assets in the US, but would have little impact. Unlike Libya, Syria has few assets in the US.

[Fair&Balanced]

The U.S. is not responsible for "rescuing other nations" on its own.

The U.S. as part of a broad coalition, with a mandate from the UN, can and should, under certain circumstances and on a limited basis, act to protect innocent civilians if it is believed it would not lead to greater harm or a worse outcome.

IMO, that is the case in Libya. A UN mandate, with the support of the Arab League, against a dictator that every other Arab leader would be happy to see deposed.

And not the case in Syria. There is no UN mandate and wont be because Russia, with its close ties to Syria, would veto. Syria also has close ties to Iran, Hamas in Gaza and Hezballah in Lebanon. The potential for greater harm or a worse outcome if the US, unilaterally or with a UN mandated, were to act militarily, is far more likely than in Libya. That greater harm or worse outcome being a response by Iran/Hamas/Hezballah against Israel, leading to a much greater threat of a larger war in the Middle East or an upsurge of terrorists actions in Europe and/or the US.

[Uday]

Originally Posted by Fair&Balanced

The U.S. is not responsible for "rescuing other nations" on its own.

The U.S. as part of a broad coalition, with a mandate from the UN, can and should, under certain circumstances and on a limited basis, act to protect innocent civilians if it is believed it would not lead to greater harm or a worse outcome.

This may very well be true, but this is not how it looks to the rest of the world. It looks more like America arranges coalitions, then wrecks a country, then hires "no bid" contractors to rebuild it with pieces of shit. You even electrocute your own soldiers in their barrack bathrooms, and have police stations with shit from the second floor plumbing coming out of the first floor light fixture, yes?

Or your marines find themselves guarding poppy fields, so that the heroin trade goes to the right warlord.

When America comes to "help", smart people pack up and leave home.