Stromboli Vs. Calzone - Page 2

fredsant · 06-14-2009, 02:53 AM

ri-goh-tha is the standard pronunciation for this word. ri-goht is the pronunciation used in the Abruzzi (region) dialect. We Abruzzese typically do not pronounce a word-ending vowel.

Fred Santogrossi

09-23-2010, 03:27 AM

i've worked at a New York Pizzeria for over three years for a man straight from Palermo. And his family traditionally made stromboli in rolls, with at least mozz and ham. While their calzones were traditionally mozz and riccotta. both, however, came with the sauce on the side but could be put inside per request. but that was menu-ized. ask a true italian...

06-05-2011, 09:28 AM

The way I understood the term is that Stromboli has the tomato sauce inside, while Calzone does not. With Calzone the sauce is served on the side.

The explanation I was given was that Stromboli is named after a famous volcano, and the tomato sauce resembles lava coming out of a volcano when you bite into a Stromboli.

I have no idea whether this is widely accepted or not.

Shawnee123 · 06-03-2009, 09:10 AM

Really? That is great!

Right now, I'd eat ten of either of them.

Grrrr...are there apple/banana/salad/nicotine/caffeine strombolis?

classicman · 06-03-2009, 09:49 AM

wassamattefoyou huh? I just told you wat isit.

Sheldonrs · 06-03-2009, 11:21 AM

When I was going to Rutgers Univ. back in the 80s, there was a great stromboli place there called Stuff Your Face. I would go there 3-4 times a week. And it turns out, the guy making them was Mario Batali!

:-)

glatt · 06-03-2009, 11:29 AM

I knew a guy who wasn't sure what the difference was between a Stromboli and an apostrophe.

Stormieweather · 06-03-2009, 11:32 AM

I worked off and on for a pizza place locally for years (they sold it eventually). The owners were Italian brothers from the sicilian region. I've never had a better pizza, before or since.

They did not make strombolis, but had great calzones (cal-zho-nayz). As they explained to me, a calzone was a pizza with the toppings inside instead of on top + ricotta. Sometimes, people would order a calzone with a half a dozen or more toppings in it, and that sucker would look like it was gonna explode. But omg so yumm.

Now I'm hungry and no one makes calzones like that anywhere...

wolf · 06-04-2009, 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stormieweather

They did not make strombolis, but had great calzones (cal-zho-nayz).

Who pronounces the terminal "e" in calzone? I've never heard that.

xoxoxoBruce · 06-04-2009, 12:35 PM

I think "cal-zho-nayz" is plural.

ZenGum · 06-04-2009, 01:40 AM

Stromboli Vs. Calzone

I'm pretty sure that was the court case that established the transitivity of spaghetti as it relates to pasta sauce consumption, or something.

Shawnee123 · 06-14-2009, 03:54 PM

Spelling is ruining the Italian language.

Thanks Fred, and welcome.

Sundae · 06-16-2009, 12:50 PM

Hang on - calzone is cal-zon-eh, right?

Anyway, one of the local Italian owned takeaways has had a revamp and is offering it. Very excited.

When Mum & Dad come back from house-sitting I intend to order us all one as a treat. Why wait? I can't afford it before they go, and I don't want to eat one alone. We've all had them in Italy and I don't want mine picked apart verbally before I get to pick it apart

SteveDallas · 06-16-2009, 01:33 PM

I was always under the impression that in Italian the final vowel of the word is pronounced. My Italian instruc was obviously not Abruzzese.

This thread is disappointing. Based on the title I was hoping for a cage match to the death.

jinx · 06-16-2009, 01:49 PM

I learned the vowel-less pronuciations from our italian friends but didn't know that was regional. I think the Sopranos skip the last vowel too... I remember thinking "what the hell is gabbagool?" (cappicola) Stunad...

Spinach calzone Vs Cheesesteak boli

GO!

06-14-2009, 02:53 AM	#1
fredsant Kinda New Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 2	Ricotta ri-goh-tha is the standard pronunciation for this word. ri-goht is the pronunciation used in the Abruzzi (region) dialect. We Abruzzese typically do not pronounce a word-ending vowel. Fred Santogrossi

06-03-2009, 09:10 AM	#4
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	Really? That is great! Right now, I'd eat ten of either of them. Grrrr...are there apple/banana/salad/nicotine/caffeine strombolis? __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

06-03-2009, 09:49 AM	#5
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	wassamattefoyou huh? I just told you wat isit. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

06-03-2009, 11:21 AM	#6
Sheldonrs Master Dwellar Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 4,412	When I was going to Rutgers Univ. back in the 80s, there was a great stromboli place there called Stuff Your Face. I would go there 3-4 times a week. And it turns out, the guy making them was Mario Batali! :-) __________________ Laugh and the world laughs with you; cry and the world laughs AT you.

06-03-2009, 11:32 AM	#8
Stormieweather Wearing her bitch boots Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Floriduh Posts: 1,181	I worked off and on for a pizza place locally for years (they sold it eventually). The owners were Italian brothers from the sicilian region. I've never had a better pizza, before or since. They did not make strombolis, but had great calzones (cal-zho-nayz). As they explained to me, a calzone was a pizza with the toppings inside instead of on top + ricotta. Sometimes, people would order a calzone with a half a dozen or more toppings in it, and that sucker would look like it was gonna explode. But omg so yumm. Now I'm hungry and no one makes calzones like that anywhere... __________________ "First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." - Mahatma Gandhi

09-23-2010, 03:27 AM	#2
jesuschrist12309 Guest Posts: n/a	i've worked at a New York Pizzeria for over three years for a man straight from Palermo. And his family traditionally made stromboli in rolls, with at least mozz and ham. While their calzones were traditionally mozz and riccotta. both, however, came with the sauce on the side but could be put inside per request. but that was menu-ized. ask a true italian...

06-05-2011, 09:28 AM	#3
NDee Guest Posts: n/a	The way I understood the term is that Stromboli has the tomato sauce inside, while Calzone does not. With Calzone the sauce is served on the side. The explanation I was given was that Stromboli is named after a famous volcano, and the tomato sauce resembles lava coming out of a volcano when you bite into a Stromboli. I have no idea whether this is widely accepted or not.

06-03-2009, 11:29 AM	#7
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	I knew a guy who wasn't sure what the difference was between a Stromboli and an apostrophe.

06-04-2009, 12:35 PM	#10
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	I think "cal-zho-nayz" is plural. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

06-04-2009, 01:40 AM	#11
ZenGum Doctor Wtf Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Badelaide, Baustralia Posts: 12,861	Stromboli Vs. Calzone I'm pretty sure that was the court case that established the transitivity of spaghetti as it relates to pasta sauce consumption, or something. __________________ Shut up and hug. MoreThanPretty, Nov 5, 2008. Just because I'm nominally polite, does not make me a pussy. Sundae Girl.

06-14-2009, 03:54 PM	#12
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	Spelling is ruining the Italian language. Thanks Fred, and welcome. __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

06-16-2009, 12:50 PM	#13
Sundae polaroid of perfection Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 24,185	Hang on - calzone is cal-zon-eh, right? Anyway, one of the local Italian owned takeaways has had a revamp and is offering it. Very excited. When Mum & Dad come back from house-sitting I intend to order us all one as a treat. Why wait? I can't afford it before they go, and I don't want to eat one alone. We've all had them in Italy and I don't want mine picked apart verbally before I get to pick it apart

06-16-2009, 01:33 PM	#14
SteveDallas Your Bartender Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Philly Burbs, PA Posts: 7,651	I was always under the impression that in Italian the final vowel of the word is pronounced. My Italian instruc was obviously not Abruzzese. This thread is disappointing. Based on the title I was hoping for a cage match to the death.

06-16-2009, 01:49 PM	#15
jinx Come on, cat. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: general vicinity of Philadelphia area Posts: 7,013	I learned the vowel-less pronuciations from our italian friends but didn't know that was regional. I think the Sopranos skip the last vowel too... I remember thinking "what the hell is gabbagool?" (cappicola) Stunad... Spinach calzone Vs Cheesesteak boli GO! __________________ Crying won't help you, praying won't do you no good.

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