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11-10-2004, 03:37 PM | #16 |
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not if it wasn't properly ratified it's not.
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11-10-2004, 03:39 PM | #17 | |
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11-10-2004, 03:42 PM | #18 |
*shameless....so stop trying so hard....*-me
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Fillipino rice farmer....turned sake maybe....they are gonna LOVE me...
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11-10-2004, 03:43 PM | #19 | ||||
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The Constitution was written specifically to limit the powers of government and NOT to place any limits on the rights of the people. Any amendments which violate our rights like the 16th and 18th are violations. The 16th amendment contradicts and violates the 1st, 4th, 5th, 6th, 8th, 9th, 10th, and 13th amendments, and the apportionment clause of Article 1, section 8. So even if you were able to get the number of legal votes to pass the amendment (which they didn't do), you'd first have to pass amendments to repeal all of those before you could add it; otherwise it's blatantly unconstitutional in its face and is therefore null and void.
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11-10-2004, 03:43 PM | #20 |
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See above, if I'm in need of a bolt-hole a country with a liberal attitude to bribery, a mostly dsyfunctional justice system and unreliable police/military are all good traits =) I like some things about the place, lots of others (forced prostitution, child prostitution) give me the creeps. If I emigrating for purely political/monetary reasons it'd be St Kitts or another tropical island somewhere, plenty of little ones dotted though the pacific.
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11-10-2004, 04:53 PM | #21 |
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My ex-acquaintance Art Farnsworth will be testing all your theories in court:
Farnsworth's arrest grabs attention for tax movement Art's take is that he's not liable. He hasn't paid for years. He spent last weekend in jail. He's out on $100,000 bail and wearing an ankle bracelet. The feds are going to take a crack at him. "Legal" is in the eyes of the courts. |
11-10-2004, 05:13 PM | #22 |
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The courts are not the sole arbiters of the Constitution. In fact every citizen of the United States has not only the ability, but the responsibility to decide what is or isn't Constitutional.
I can tell you what will happen. The IRS will deny him due process. They will tell him he can argue his case before a federal judge but no witnesses can be called, no evidence presented, and he can have no jury. They've done it many times before. They know no jury will side with the government so they refuse to allow anyone to have a jury trial and won't allow the public to attend the hearing.
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11-10-2004, 05:45 PM | #23 |
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So how many years will Art spend in the fed prison?
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11-10-2004, 07:20 PM | #24 | |
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Maybe you should think Romania or some other ex-East Bloc nation.
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11-11-2004, 01:22 AM | #26 |
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Oh dear. I turn my back for a minute and you guys got him started ... thing is, I agree with him on the tax thing, however, I'm desirous enough of a hassle free life in this respect that I fill 'em out and send 'em in and act joyously happy when I get the refund, which I give the special name of "free gun money."
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11-11-2004, 09:40 AM | #27 | |
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I am applying for dual citizenship to Ireland, if I can manage to get all the necessary paperwork together about my grandfather. May come in handy the next time I travel internationally. |
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11-11-2004, 10:11 AM | #28 | ||
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Current living conditions are reminiscent of the Britain of 15 years ago. Radiating heaters, no air conditioning, very few people with internet access at home. However, some things are very modern: most people have a cell phone, the music is as varied as folk (kinda polka-ish) and American rock and hip-hop, and British pop. The majority of people there speak some form of second language, English, German and Russian are the most popular. The majority of folks are Eastern Orthodox Catholic, with a minority of Christian and Muslim faiths. There is a growing trend with the young people towards Pagan faiths. The language is fairly easy to learn, it's phonetic, and similar to Czech, but most closely associated with Serbian (it's official name used to be Serbo-Croatian), and in it's ancient form (Glagolitic) it's very similar to ancient Russian. I don't really have a good grasp of their industrial situation, as I wasn't really into that while I was there. There are ALOT of farms and agriculture outside of the main cities (Zagreb, Split, Dubrovnik, etc). Citizenship is as follows: Quote:
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11-11-2004, 10:43 AM | #29 |
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You guys are overlooking the most obvious choice of a good place to go to not have to deal with the US political/justice system:
HAWAI'I Over there, they fly the state flag at half mast on the anniversary of Hawai'i's statehood. That place is a refuge for mainland refuseniks.
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11-11-2004, 11:16 AM | #30 |
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Estonia is looking good as well, I can't wait to go there, they've got better broadband than us. Lobster thing is true, king prawns as well.
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