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Old 07-20-2004, 03:35 PM   #16
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Hey, maybe Derek Jeter can step out of the batter's box grab a wireless mic and start lecturing the fans in Yankee Stadium about how John Kerry is going to place our military under the control of Kofi Annan and the United Nations and its the duty of every red-blooded American to not vote for him. Who cares if its true - Jeter has the right to speak his mind, right?

Let's see all the Ronstadt supporters come to his aid. I'll be sure to hold my breath.
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Old 07-20-2004, 03:42 PM   #17
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He can and Steinbrenner can trade him or put language (betcha it's already in there) in his contract (prolly MLB already has something in the collective bargaining agreement about pissing in the soup) forbidding it. If Linda broke a contractual agreement that is another thing entirely. When you go to see Ronstadt you know what you are in for. The dopes who made a scene probably went there intending to make a scene.
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Old 07-20-2004, 04:43 PM   #18
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Wow did she just say, "I dedicate the next song to Michael Moore" or was it more than that? Damn!
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Old 07-20-2004, 05:43 PM   #19
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When you go to see Ronstadt you know what you are in for. The dopes who made a scene probably went there intending to make a scene.
I doubt it Griff, I've a feeling that crowd was probably clueless. The Conceirge said I can get you into Ronstadt and they said OK, I've heard of her.
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Old 07-20-2004, 05:51 PM   #20
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Wow did she just say, "I dedicate the next song to Michael Moore" or was it more than that? Damn!

That's about it. It sounds like she may have said a few things about the film, encouraged people to see "the truth about how things really are."

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Old 07-20-2004, 05:58 PM   #21
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praised Mr Moore as a "great American patriot" who "is spreading the truth."
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She also dedicated the song "Desperado" to Mr Moore and urged the audience to go and see "Fahrenheit 9/11,"
Sounds like she might have taken a minute or two.
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Old 07-20-2004, 06:23 PM   #22
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"Sounds like she might have taken a minute or two. "

.........Oh well in that case it's perfectly understandable and reasonable that the adult patrons threw a tantrum
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Old 07-20-2004, 06:24 PM   #23
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Hey sm, as a guy who just might get such work, what do you think the rest of the band thought? Ronstadt herself doesn't give a crap but what about the $300 a day people backing her up? Do they get paid now or not?

i actually did blue bayou at a wedding once, but not her version
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Old 07-20-2004, 07:40 PM   #24
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Here's an interesting article about Ronstadt. The article acknowledges the Moore thing but is about Linda Ronstadt.

Love her or hate her (I'm a huge fan but had no idea she incorporated her politics in her act- not that I care I just didn't know), you have to admire her musical flexibility. I don't necessarily agree with her top songs as indicated in the article and would add her remake of Elvis Costello's Girl Talk to the list.

Of course she was (is?) married to Jerry Brown...
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Old 07-20-2004, 07:53 PM   #25
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So the bottom line has nothing to do with Linda Rhonstadt. Problem really was either with patrons who were too inferior to act as adults (throwing drinks; attacking billboards) or with management of the Aladdin casino that failed to maintain order. The casino is ultimately responsible for protecting those 75% of their patrons from the 25% who acted as children; who destroyed a good show for the other 75%.

The Aladdin casino has the right to cancel all future engagments with Linda Rhonstadt. And Linda Rhonstadt has every right to dedicate her music to Saddam Hussien if she wants. Instead she dedicated music to an American that extremists so fear as to attack other patron's entertainment. For that, the children went ballistic? And were forgiven because they supported an extremist right wing agenda? No wonder those children also fear what Howard Stern or Bill Mahr might say. Then an extremist press spins this into condemnation of Linda Rhonstadt? Do they think we are that stupid?

None of this can be discussed without first pointing to the reasons for all this: a lying president.

Unfortunately more civil disobedience is expected because a president lies - even about knowing in advance about the WTC attack - the 6 Aug Presidential Daily Briefing and a 5 Jul National Security Council meeting that will be discussed tomorrow.

When presidents lied about VietNam and patriots properly demonstrated in Chicago, then the police, under orders of Mayor Daley, unilaterally attacked those demonstrators. The whole world was watching. This is what extremist supporters do in the name of lying leaders. What happened in Las Vegas suggests what is in our future because George Jr is a liar - and a mental midget president. Extremists will condone more violence under the disguise of patriotism? And Rush Limbaugh will condone their violence as well? This is what a second George Jr administration threatens for America - not to mention how things get unsafe for Americans overseas.

Things will get even more confrontational if George Jr is reelectted and then starts his invasion of Iran. So how will those inferior patrons from the Aladdin casino blame Linda Rhonstadt and Michael Moore for that war? This Linda Rhonstadt event is becoming more frequent. I have seen same in coffee shops in different states. We need an honest president. George Jr does not qualify.

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Old 07-20-2004, 08:35 PM   #26
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"Then an extremist press spins this into condemnation of Linda Rhonstadt? Do they think we are that stupid?"

Unfortunately yes, they do. You only have to look at the coverage in the media of the "war on terror" to see that they really have a very low opinion of their audience. "We have always been at war with Eurasia"
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Old 07-20-2004, 10:15 PM   #27
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And were forgiven because they supported an extremist right wing agenda?
No, because they were paying customers. The bottom line has replaced Elvis as king, in Vegas and most everywhere else.
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Old 07-21-2004, 09:55 AM   #28
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I doubt it Griff, I've a feeling that crowd was probably clueless. The Conceirge said I can get you into Ronstadt and they said OK, I've heard of her.
You're prolly right about the Vegas scene. People don't really seek out acts they just end up places. I don't get the mentality, but since when do I understand American culture?
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Old 07-21-2004, 10:07 AM   #29
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"It's a real conflict for me when I go to a concert and find out somebody in the audience is a Republican or fundamental Christian. It can cloud my enjoyment. I'd rather not know."
--- Linda Ronstadt (from Beestie's link)

That's exactly how your audience feels about you, Ms. R.
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Old 07-21-2004, 10:20 AM   #30
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Shut up and sing.

Vote as you like, think as you like but when people are paying to hear you sing (or whatever artistic product you are selling)........do the doin' and go home.

Tell your dog how you think. He might give a rat's ass.
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