BIDEN - HARRIS 2020

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Griff, I know better than to take those people's word for their own value or their own goodness.

[Griff]

Your commitment to unregulated force makes you an example I cannot follow.

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Well, if it *were* a commitment to unregulated force, you'd have a point.

Where you'd stop with the regulation is another point needing examining.

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

Well, if it *were* a commitment to unregulated force, you'd have a point.

Where you'd stop with the regulation is another point needing examining.

And not yet getting that examination after this many days.

[Griff]

5th Biden sign stolen last night.

[BigV]

Originally Posted by Griff

5th Biden sign stolen last night.

Don't you have a game / trail camera?

But then what would you do with it after you caught it? I think the rule is you can't slaughter it if it has a name.

[Ibby]

i would like to point out that 3D printed guns are extremely safe and effective now, and there's no putting that genie back in the bottle. Using some imagined scary left-wing boogieman of "they're coming to take our guns" is a fair enough reason, I guess, not to support the Democratic party, but it certainly doesn't excuse this fool defending actual literal obvious fascism or casting his lot in with the white-supremacist right. I know we all know that if UG gave even half a shit about liberty or freedom, he wouldn't be a such an obvious fascist bootlicker, but it's really important for the rest of us to remember that the left isn't uniformly anti-gun. I live in arguably the most left-wing state in the country and i could go buy another piece this afternoon on a whim. the left - the actual left, not liberal centrists - is generally pretty gun-positive. Go find your local John Brown Gun Club and make some new friends!

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Ibby, you are hapless. Manifestly you wouldn't know a fascist if one broke your nose with a Hitler salute. I would expect *you* to try breaking my nose that way. The Black, Living Marxists and Antifa are the face of the left.

You have only to pay attention to the Democrat solons' statements about gun control to know how bitterly they despise an adult, competent -- and armed and therefore capable and unoppressible -- electorate. We can quote each candidate and some guest speakers, you know. Oh, that's right... you will suddenly behave like you're illiterate. Your worldview demands you do; I call it superstitious.

Armed society = civilized society. Democratic platform and selling points to yahoos = uncivilized society.

Ibby: not armed, not capable either, bait for tyrants, will lick boots and bootie.

[Griff]

UG, your fantasy is unhealthy and dangerous to democracy. Anticipating you getting nonsensical about republics, our Republic protected actual human slavery, let's be clear eyed while looking backwards. I would suggest that Ibby is armed because elements of the right wing of our culture find him unacceptable as a person and would use violence against him. I would also suggest that many of these same "very good people" would use violence to enforce other aspects of their backwards vision.

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Originally Posted by Griff

UG, your fantasy is unhealthy and dangerous to democracy. Anticipating you getting nonsensical about republics, our Republic protected actual human slavery, let's be clear eyed while looking backwards.

For a cleareyed instance, note that the founding ideas of the Republic -- written where we can still read them today, into the bargain -- sowed the seeds of slavery's demise. Frederick Douglass -- who has one fewer statue now than once he did, thanks to iconoclastic morons with *no* history -- believed this, and was actuated by this belief.

Read. The Federalist Papers are a good choice, and too neglected nowadays.

[tw]

Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

Ibby, you are hapless. Manifestly you wouldn't know a fascist if one broke your nose with a Hitler salute.

Exactly how a fascist (ie a Nazi) would reply. Also called a wacko extremist. Like the scumbag president that he adores, he posts insults. Not one fact. Nothing honest. His ego is proof of everything that he knows.

Narcissist personality disorder? 30 second attention spam? Characteristic of an extremist.

He is upset and now more nasty. A president he admires has been exposed for what he always was.

A vote for Trump is approval of Urban Guerrilla. And the KKK, Nazis, and White Supremacists praised by Trump and UG. Fascism is alive and well.

[BigV]

Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

snip - -

Ibby: not armed, not capable either, bait for tyrants, will lick boots and bootie.

UG thinks Ibby's unarmed, lol. Typical misunderstanding of reality leading to predictably inappropriate responses.


BOO!


Ha ha, madeja flinch.

[BigV]

Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

snip-- taking your AR-15 away --

snip-- quite all right with taking your AR-15 away, ditto ditto.

(repeated for historical accuracy)--snip

Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

snip-- (just the boring parts we've all seen a thousand times, ad hominem attacks, Johnny One Note, crystallized ideology)

Armed society = civilized society. Democratic platform and selling points to yahoos = uncivilized society. (<--- see?)

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Urbane Guerrilla, I dedicate this video to you:

[Undertoad]

elements of the right wing of our culture find him unacceptable as a person and would use violence against him

Not a widespread issue, deadly violence against trans people has typically come from people they know and regular old violent crime that happens to everybody in the ghetto



(Except for the millennial newspeak that speech is violence, which occasionally now is extended to lack of speech is violence; and the other newspeak that violence, in the form of rioting, is speech. Carry on)

[Ibby]

find her unacceptable, you mean, Griff.

but honestly I would wager that I am armed for the exact same reasons everyone else is. I'm more interested in community self-defense than personal self defense, but otherwise, i'm armed because, in no particular order: self-defense is important, the ability to resist violent fascism is important, the option to hunt for food is important, and, frankly, owning and shooting guns is fun. Any gun enthusiast who says they don't do it at least a little bit cause its fun is lying to you.

and ultimately, i'm armed cause i don't want violent fascists like UG, like the boog-ers, like the proud boys and patriot prayer, like the police, to be the only ones with guns.