Lies, Damn Lies, and Scumbag Politicians

[classicman]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Snopes is checking what is being said

They don't check everything - that's the point - They CHOOSE to check some far more critically than others. Also, when they cannot disprove something said by one of "their candidates", they use lots of words and then claim its unverifiable or grey or some other bullshit. They all do it. Again, no more credible than Fox nor MSDNC.

[xoxoxoBruce]

They check what they are asked to check in their forum. If they find it unverifiable, all those words they use are saying why.

[Griff]

NGP VAN is a Clinton connected operation.

I started going through the wiki revisions to see what's been dropped.
from 12/19/15
NGP VAN was created in November 2010 by the merger of its two predecessor companies, NGP Software, founded in 1997 by Nathaniel Pearlman, who later served as chief technology officer for Hillary Clinton's 2008 presidential campaign,[6] in his attic in Washington, D.C, and Voter Activation Network, founded in 2001 by Mark Sullivan, in his study in Cambridge, Massachusetts.[7]

They left this in.
Its current president and CEO, Stuart Trevelyan, was a veteran of the 1992 Clinton-Gore War Room, providing research, analysis, and whip counts to the Clinton Administration as a member of the White House Office of Legislative Affairs.[5]

Current DNC chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz was co-chair of Hillary's 2008 campaign.

It is good to remember that the parties are private organizations which have gained control of the public elections. These Democrats make the GOP look weirdly democratic.

[classicman]

DWS is a Killary lapdog. Hope that poodle gets shaved.
This is all about Killary and her overwhelming lust for power and control.
How soon some forget. Sad.

[Happy Monkey]

Pure mean-spiritedness.

“Naloxone does not truly save lives; it merely extends them until the next overdose,” LePage wrote, repeating a contention that has caused controversy before. “Creating a situation where an addict has a heroin needle in one hand and a shot of naloxone in the other produces a sense of normalcy and security around heroin use that serves only to perpetuate the cycle of addiction.”

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

Pure mean-spiritedness.

In the same vein(no pun), buprenorphine, this is really sad.

“Can you fucking believe this?” he says. “This is bible belt shit. This is the notion that addicts are sinners and sinners deserve to go to hell but before they go to hell they deserve to go to jail.”

[Clodfobble]

The caption on the photo is pretty funny.

[tw]

View the picture carefully. Who more wants to make that deal?

[Happy Monkey]

I wonder if I can even be outraged anymore; it just makes me sad.

[Dr. Zaius]

So the Washington Post reveals that Trump acted as his own publicist ~25 years ago and writes a story. Totally silly stuff, if true, which it probably is. There's even a recording that sounds like Trump.

But what I don't get is why Trump is denying it. Given the number of things to which Trump has been accused, this is nothing. He could just say "yeah, I did that 25 years ago. I'm my own best publicist, what's the big deal?" and move on. But instead he's stonewalling, denying, and now hanging up on reporters asking him about it.

Weird.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Distraction? Keep reporters digging on a non-story?

[Dr. Zaius]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Distraction? Keep reporters digging on a non-story?

Yeah, maybe Trump leaked the story to get people to quit talking about his non-released taxes for a few days.

[BigV]

Because we're still talking about trump. The biggest attention whore ever. Ever.

The content is.... Irrelevant. Just so that we're saying trump.

[Undertoad]

Exactly; this is the first troll Presidential campaign.

I don't read any of the stories - I only read headlines - but from this perspective, the people are being trolled, and they are losing.

We know the troll - we are familiar with how this goes. We have been trolled for 30 years, some of us; sometimes we have lost, and we have learned from it. But our aunts and uncles only got on Facebook in 2012, and most of them haven't figured out this dynamic.

The classic troll: say something provocative and get as much reaction from it as you can; now you've disrupted everything, you are the topic, which was the goal all along.

This guy's a pro and has been chumming the water for years and years. But at some point there's a feeding frenzy, and the fish generate their own chum. So now he doesn't even have to say anything. Posts will be written about what he said earlier. Or who supports him and who doesn't. Or pure speculation.

Did you spend any time thinking - seriously considering - whether or not he acted as his own spokesman 25 years ago? Did you consider the implications of the story? Did you wonder whether it would have legs? At lunch with J today, and she got a notification on her phone for it. The NY fuckin' Times had it as "breaking news".

Breaking news? They sent an alert for this?

The traditional online response is, YHBT. YHL. HAND.

You Have been Trolled. You Have Lost. Have A Nice Day.

[Griff]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

Exactly; this is the first troll Presidential campaign.

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