This guy wants to play...football!!! - Page 2

elSicomoro · 12-07-2002, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Undertoad
Eagles/Seahawks I will watch, as I watch all Eagles games, but this'll be a snoozefest. A great team with a third-string QB against a poor team. Final score might well be 6-3.

You might be right on that. Just give the ball to Duce Staley and Antonio Freeman and call it a day.

Vick makes football games more exciting, a la when the Rams are firing on all cylinders. There are times when I simply can't sit through a whole Eagles or Ravens game, b/c they come across as boring.

Griff · 01-05-2003, 07:45 PM

Wouldn't it suck to be a Browns fan right now? Bwahahahaha!

elSicomoro · 01-05-2003, 08:01 PM

Or a Packers fan? (Sorry HB)

Great comeback by the Steelers. What a romp by the Jets. And the SF-NY game...I could have gone either way with that.

I don't know if Vick is going to be able to handle that Eagles D next weekend...plus Donovan's back. And Steve McNair is having a hell of a season...that should be a good game. I would like to see TB win, just b/c they have a history of choking in cold weather games. And I'll take Oakland, though I am impressed with the Jets over the past 2 weeks.

Undertoad · 01-05-2003, 08:59 PM

Mr. Vick, meet Mr. Douglas. Mr. Vick, meet Mr. Turf.

elSicomoro · 01-05-2003, 09:13 PM

Hugh was playing it casual on the news tonight..."I only know what I know from what you guys show on TV...I don't watch the games..." or something like that.

$10 says he'll be watching game film all week, salivating.

Apparently, some people here are starting to get jazzed up over a possible Steelers-Eagles Super Bowl. But I don't think the Steelers will get past the Titans.

Griff · 01-06-2003, 07:01 AM

The Steelers are really thin at cornerback, which wasn't a strong position for them anyway. Any team that can protect their quarterback can pass on them. That said, the Browns understand the Steelers pass rush better than any other organization so they are going to have more luck... All in all that comeback was a great anniversary present... 12 years man what a blessing.

Eagles could make it but the Steeler run would be difficult.

elSicomoro · 01-06-2003, 08:03 PM

The front page of today's Philadelphia Daily News

elSicomoro · 01-12-2003, 09:29 PM

I watched all the games this weekend...good games for the most part. I particularly loved that ass-whipping the Bucs gave the Niners.

And so, we have the Titans in Oakland next week, which is going to be a fine offensive game. McNair and Gannon are going to be airing it out big time. And if Eddie George is good to go, the Raiders could be in trouble.

But let's talk about the other game...the very last football game at Veterans Stadium is to be played next Sunday afternoon: Bucs vs. Eagles. What a great defensive battle this will be. But McNabb looked good yesterday, and Brad Johnson had a fine day today. Both teams are good at spreading the offense around...and I was glad to see James Thrash back in the mix yesterday.

But let's look at one glaring statistic here: In 27 years of existance, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers have never won a game when the game-time temp is below forty degrees. And the forecast for next week looks like low-to-mid 30s here in Philadelphia.

Next week is going to be crazy around here...and good riddance to that piece of shit on South Broad.

Undertoad · 01-12-2003, 11:09 PM

This might be a good time to introduce this team to people who haven't watched one moment of Eagles football.

Because they are special. The Eagles are a great team to be a fan of.

Head coach Andy Reid was named coach of the year this year. He deserves it.

The Eagles are a team that was specifically built to be what it is, over a period of several years. The team has been built mostly through the draft, but Reid has also made several free agent signings that are remarkable.

Part of Reid's focus is on character. There are no prima donnas on this team. Everyone is relentlessly focused on the team. When they talk team in interviews, they are sincere.

It reflects the top guy. Reid is all business. He's got zero charisma for the big media; he barely tolerates all the attention. It's all about the football.

The center of Reid's attention is team leader and Quarterback Donovan McNabb. McNabb has been a long-term project, brought along at a pace that infuriated the fans. At first he wasn't even allowed to play at all; the team brought in a lifetime backup to start in front of McNabb. Before he could play, he had to watch half a season of game films and study what happens out there. In effect, the team blew a season to develop the guy.

But it went further than that. McNabb was limited in other ways during his next two seasons. Learning the difficult "west coast" offense, learning to read defenses, at times they would have McNabb game planned to never run, then, never to throw deep as he and his teammates developed together.

Finally, this season, McNabb was completely let loose as he would really run the team. He has become the type of quarterback that would pick the team up and carry it on his shoulders. So much so that, in an early-season game the Eagles were losing, he actually vomited on the field, just before taking the snap from center. The pressure was all on his back.

And again, when he actually broke his ankle early in a game, he simply limped back in and won the game. He could barely run, and when headed to the sidelines he was visibly limping. He was hit several times and had to run to avoid sacks. He refused to let them take him out. And he won the damn game.

While McNabb healed, the colorful backup Koy Detmer beat the 49ers on Monday Night, becoming a legend himself before getting hurt. And then 3rd stringer A.J. Feeley came in and went 4-0 before finally succumbing to a desperate Giants team. On other teams, the backups go in and the team falls apart, thinking it has no chance. On this team, the rest of the team decided it would now have to pull together and win it on their own shoulders, without McNabb. And they did.

In the next post: what to watch for!

Undertoad · 01-12-2003, 11:57 PM

When you watch the Eagles offense:

It's usually all about Donovan McNabb. Number 5. A special talent. He's re-defining the role of the quarterback with his remarkable talents, his intelligence, his dedication and hard work.

When it isn't about McNabb, it's because the team has gone into a game plan mode where they believe, for some reason, that they can win if they relentlessly run, run, run the ball. This happened during the last game, which made the birds' offense seem a little boring and unproductive.

The running game doesn't have to be boring, though, because it's headed by Duce Staley. Number 22. He patiently paid his dues while running behind Charlie Garner; he tried to hold the team by himself when things were bad; he didn't get respect when he was injured; now that he's back, he's a top-10 running back. The fans admire this and you'll hear the chant of "Duuuuuce" when he's got the ball.

McNabb splits his passes amongst the whole team. On short passes you see workhorse TE Chad Lewis #89. One big play receiver is Todd Pinkston #87. He's fun to watch, partly because he's about 6-foot-4 and and about 145 pounds in weight. No, I don't know what his actual weight is, but you just look for the guy who looks impossibly skinny, and that's him.

The Eagles will run "trick" plays including reverses, double reverses, flea flickers, and unexpected onside kicks. People theorize that Coach Reid does this so that other teams have to practice for them. He has guys who specifically run the reverse, so Reid is really playing chess with his opposition coaches: is it a trick play now?

When you watch the Eagles defense:

Good lord, don't miss the Eagles defense.

There's a special secret about this defense, which is this: they will give up yardage. Oh yes, they may give up yard after yard after yard, and the other side may march right down the field. But during that time, three things will happen:

1. Havoc will be wreaked. The Eagles defense is all about speed. They do things no other defense would ever consider. They might send any player in on a blitz, rushing the quarterback, because the entire defense is so fast. All this leads to interceptions, sacks, botched plays.

2. Time will be used. There will be no big plays that move the team downfield in a hurry. Passes will complete towards the middle of the field, where a receiver can't run out-of-bounds and stop the clock. The opposition takes all day on a drive and only finds that...

3. No touchdown will result. Any drive ends with the Eagles' great "red-zone" defense. Once a team reaches the 20-yard-line, the Eagles stop them cold.

So who's fun to watch. Two guys in particular. Safety Brian Dawkins #20 is one guy who leads in havoc production. He doesn't play dirty, he just hits, and when he hits you, you stay hit. Sack leader is defensive end Hugh Douglas #53, who has remarkable agility and speed despite being 280 pounds and regularly having to push 300-pound guys around for a living. These two guys hot-dog it a lot out there, but they back it all up.

The Eagles defense is simply excellent in that they play basic football well. There are few missed tackles; everybody tackles well. There are few missed blocking assignments. Few outright mistakes. Extremely well-coached.

And then you watch the special teams:

No great team can neglect its special teams. The Eagles feature kick/punt returner Brian Mitchell, who in his 13th year in the league (making him ancient), may well be the finest returner ever to return kicks and punts. And kicker David Akers is quite reliable, but also a phenom; he can really kick and so the Eagles may on occasion go for a longer field goal. Akers will practice a 60 yarder before the game. Combine Mitchell and Akers, and no team can feel safe with a small lead; a Mitchell kick return may give the Eagles the field position for Akers to kick a long field goal.

Griff · 01-13-2003, 06:30 AM

What are you guys prattling on about? The football season ended Saturday evening.

Now its time to gear up for March Madness.

elSicomoro · 01-16-2003, 10:36 PM

One of the sportscasters here in Philadelphia apparently gave the toll-free phone number to Keyshawn Johnson's call-in show in Tampa the other night. A bunch of Eagles fans wound up calling in. The radio station that hosts the show is apparently pissed b/c of the long distance bill. And of course, Keyshawn Johnson still thinks that he's one of the best wide receivers in the league.

Why does this city not have decent webcams of the Center City skyline? I'll try to get a better pic myself tomorrow night, but here's one I found through Weatherbug. You can see Two Liberty Place in green. Unfortunately, I wish Mellon Bank Center (on the far right) had shown up better on this...the green hue on the top of the building is very noticeable when I'm walking over to Market East Station in the evening.

Cam · 01-17-2003, 08:17 AM

I'm cheering on the Eagles and the Titans the rest of the way. If both those teams win tomorrow I don't care who wins the Super Bowl both of them deserve it, but I guess I'll have to tip the scales for the Titans just because of the yard short they came up last time. The thing about these two teams is that they both overcame so much throughout the year. Both teams had injuries that cost a star player for a good portion of the season (Javon Kearse, McNabb) that I'm sure left many fans giving them up for dead, but the team stuck with it and took care of business while they were away.

Hopefully the remaining three games are excellent. This season has been way to exciting to have crappy Conference Championships and a boring Super Bowl.

elSicomoro · 01-18-2003, 02:45 PM

Thursday, a street vendor was hawking Hugh Douglas t-shirts outside the Bourse: The shirts featured a caricature of Douglas, with a caption that said "Fear the Fro." Man, I need to buy one of those.

elSicomoro · 01-19-2003, 01:01 PM

Preparations for today's game:

--1 dozen Krispy Kremes
--1 2L bottle of Dr. Pepper
--one almost full bottle of Penn Dutch Egg Nog
--several beers
--various foodstuffs

I'm ready.

01-05-2003, 07:45 PM	#17
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	nice comeback Wouldn't it suck to be a Browns fan right now? Bwahahahaha! __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

01-06-2003, 07:01 AM	#21
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	The Steelers are really thin at cornerback, which wasn't a strong position for them anyway. Any team that can protect their quarterback can pass on them. That said, the Browns understand the Steelers pass rush better than any other organization so they are going to have more luck... All in all that comeback was a great anniversary present... 12 years man what a blessing. Eagles could make it but the Steeler run would be difficult. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

01-06-2003, 08:03 PM	#22
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	The front page of today's Philadelphia Daily News Attached Images

01-12-2003, 09:29 PM	#23
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	And then there were four... I watched all the games this weekend...good games for the most part. I particularly loved that ass-whipping the Bucs gave the Niners. And so, we have the Titans in Oakland next week, which is going to be a fine offensive game. McNair and Gannon are going to be airing it out big time. And if Eddie George is good to go, the Raiders could be in trouble. But let's talk about the other game...the very last football game at Veterans Stadium is to be played next Sunday afternoon: Bucs vs. Eagles. What a great defensive battle this will be. But McNabb looked good yesterday, and Brad Johnson had a fine day today. Both teams are good at spreading the offense around...and I was glad to see James Thrash back in the mix yesterday. But let's look at one glaring statistic here: In 27 years of existance, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers have never won a game when the game-time temp is below forty degrees. And the forecast for next week looks like low-to-mid 30s here in Philadelphia. Next week is going to be crazy around here...and good riddance to that piece of shit on South Broad.

01-12-2003, 11:57 PM	#25
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	3 pm Sunday When you watch the Eagles offense: It's usually all about Donovan McNabb. Number 5. A special talent. He's re-defining the role of the quarterback with his remarkable talents, his intelligence, his dedication and hard work. When it isn't about McNabb, it's because the team has gone into a game plan mode where they believe, for some reason, that they can win if they relentlessly run, run, run the ball. This happened during the last game, which made the birds' offense seem a little boring and unproductive. The running game doesn't have to be boring, though, because it's headed by Duce Staley. Number 22. He patiently paid his dues while running behind Charlie Garner; he tried to hold the team by himself when things were bad; he didn't get respect when he was injured; now that he's back, he's a top-10 running back. The fans admire this and you'll hear the chant of "Duuuuuce" when he's got the ball. McNabb splits his passes amongst the whole team. On short passes you see workhorse TE Chad Lewis #89. One big play receiver is Todd Pinkston #87. He's fun to watch, partly because he's about 6-foot-4 and and about 145 pounds in weight. No, I don't know what his actual weight is, but you just look for the guy who looks impossibly skinny, and that's him. The Eagles will run "trick" plays including reverses, double reverses, flea flickers, and unexpected onside kicks. People theorize that Coach Reid does this so that other teams have to practice for them. He has guys who specifically run the reverse, so Reid is really playing chess with his opposition coaches: is it a trick play now? When you watch the Eagles defense: Good lord, don't miss the Eagles defense. There's a special secret about this defense, which is this: they will give up yardage. Oh yes, they may give up yard after yard after yard, and the other side may march right down the field. But during that time, three things will happen: 1. Havoc will be wreaked. The Eagles defense is all about speed. They do things no other defense would ever consider. They might send any player in on a blitz, rushing the quarterback, because the entire defense is so fast. All this leads to interceptions, sacks, botched plays. 2. Time will be used. There will be no big plays that move the team downfield in a hurry. Passes will complete towards the middle of the field, where a receiver can't run out-of-bounds and stop the clock. The opposition takes all day on a drive and only finds that... 3. No touchdown will result. Any drive ends with the Eagles' great "red-zone" defense. Once a team reaches the 20-yard-line, the Eagles stop them cold. So who's fun to watch. Two guys in particular. Safety Brian Dawkins #20 is one guy who leads in havoc production. He doesn't play dirty, he just hits, and when he hits you, you stay hit. Sack leader is defensive end Hugh Douglas #53, who has remarkable agility and speed despite being 280 pounds and regularly having to push 300-pound guys around for a living. These two guys hot-dog it a lot out there, but they back it all up. The Eagles defense is simply excellent in that they play basic football well. There are few missed tackles; everybody tackles well. There are few missed blocking assignments. Few outright mistakes. Extremely well-coached. And then you watch the special teams: No great team can neglect its special teams. The Eagles feature kick/punt returner Brian Mitchell, who in his 13th year in the league (making him ancient), may well be the finest returner ever to return kicks and punts. And kicker David Akers is quite reliable, but also a phenom; he can really kick and so the Eagles may on occasion go for a longer field goal. Akers will practice a 60 yarder before the game. Combine Mitchell and Akers, and no team can feel safe with a small lead; a Mitchell kick return may give the Eagles the field position for Akers to kick a long field goal.

01-05-2003, 08:01 PM	#18
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	Or a Packers fan? (Sorry HB) Great comeback by the Steelers. What a romp by the Jets. And the SF-NY game...I could have gone either way with that. I don't know if Vick is going to be able to handle that Eagles D next weekend...plus Donovan's back. And Steve McNair is having a hell of a season...that should be a good game. I would like to see TB win, just b/c they have a history of choking in cold weather games. And I'll take Oakland, though I am impressed with the Jets over the past 2 weeks.

01-05-2003, 08:59 PM	#19
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Mr. Vick, meet Mr. Douglas. Mr. Vick, meet Mr. Turf.

01-05-2003, 09:13 PM	#20
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	Hugh was playing it casual on the news tonight..."I only know what I know from what you guys show on TV...I don't watch the games..." or something like that. $10 says he'll be watching game film all week, salivating. Apparently, some people here are starting to get jazzed up over a possible Steelers-Eagles Super Bowl. But I don't think the Steelers will get past the Titans.

01-12-2003, 11:09 PM	#24
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	This might be a good time to introduce this team to people who haven't watched one moment of Eagles football. Because they are special. The Eagles are a great team to be a fan of. Head coach Andy Reid was named coach of the year this year. He deserves it. The Eagles are a team that was specifically built to be what it is, over a period of several years. The team has been built mostly through the draft, but Reid has also made several free agent signings that are remarkable. Part of Reid's focus is on character. There are no prima donnas on this team. Everyone is relentlessly focused on the team. When they talk team in interviews, they are sincere. It reflects the top guy. Reid is all business. He's got zero charisma for the big media; he barely tolerates all the attention. It's all about the football. The center of Reid's attention is team leader and Quarterback Donovan McNabb. McNabb has been a long-term project, brought along at a pace that infuriated the fans. At first he wasn't even allowed to play at all; the team brought in a lifetime backup to start in front of McNabb. Before he could play, he had to watch half a season of game films and study what happens out there. In effect, the team blew a season to develop the guy. But it went further than that. McNabb was limited in other ways during his next two seasons. Learning the difficult "west coast" offense, learning to read defenses, at times they would have McNabb game planned to never run, then, never to throw deep as he and his teammates developed together. Finally, this season, McNabb was completely let loose as he would really run the team. He has become the type of quarterback that would pick the team up and carry it on his shoulders. So much so that, in an early-season game the Eagles were losing, he actually vomited on the field, just before taking the snap from center. The pressure was all on his back. And again, when he actually broke his ankle early in a game, he simply limped back in and won the game. He could barely run, and when headed to the sidelines he was visibly limping. He was hit several times and had to run to avoid sacks. He refused to let them take him out. And he won the damn game. While McNabb healed, the colorful backup Koy Detmer beat the 49ers on Monday Night, becoming a legend himself before getting hurt. And then 3rd stringer A.J. Feeley came in and went 4-0 before finally succumbing to a desperate Giants team. On other teams, the backups go in and the team falls apart, thinking it has no chance. On this team, the rest of the team decided it would now have to pull together and win it on their own shoulders, without McNabb. And they did. In the next post: what to watch for!

01-13-2003, 06:30 AM	#26
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	What are you guys prattling on about? The football season ended Saturday evening. Now its time to gear up for March Madness. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

01-16-2003, 10:36 PM	#27
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	One of the sportscasters here in Philadelphia apparently gave the toll-free phone number to Keyshawn Johnson's call-in show in Tampa the other night. A bunch of Eagles fans wound up calling in. The radio station that hosts the show is apparently pissed b/c of the long distance bill. And of course, Keyshawn Johnson still thinks that he's one of the best wide receivers in the league. Why does this city not have decent webcams of the Center City skyline? I'll try to get a better pic myself tomorrow night, but here's one I found through Weatherbug. You can see Two Liberty Place in green. Unfortunately, I wish Mellon Bank Center (on the far right) had shown up better on this...the green hue on the top of the building is very noticeable when I'm walking over to Market East Station in the evening. Attached Images Last edited by elSicomoro; 01-16-2003 at 10:47 PM.

01-17-2003, 08:17 AM	#28
Cam dripping with ignorance Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Grand Forks ND Posts: 642	I'm cheering on the Eagles and the Titans the rest of the way. If both those teams win tomorrow I don't care who wins the Super Bowl both of them deserve it, but I guess I'll have to tip the scales for the Titans just because of the yard short they came up last time. The thing about these two teams is that they both overcame so much throughout the year. Both teams had injuries that cost a star player for a good portion of the season (Javon Kearse, McNabb) that I'm sure left many fans giving them up for dead, but the team stuck with it and took care of business while they were away. Hopefully the remaining three games are excellent. This season has been way to exciting to have crappy Conference Championships and a boring Super Bowl. __________________ After the seventh beer I generally try and stay away from the keyboard, I apologize for what happens when I fail.

01-18-2003, 02:45 PM	#29
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	Thursday, a street vendor was hawking Hugh Douglas t-shirts outside the Bourse: The shirts featured a caricature of Douglas, with a caption that said "Fear the Fro." Man, I need to buy one of those.

01-19-2003, 01:01 PM	#30
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	Preparations for today's game: --1 dozen Krispy Kremes --1 2L bottle of Dr. Pepper --one almost full bottle of Penn Dutch Egg Nog --several beers --various foodstuffs I'm ready.

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode