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Old 09-28-2010, 12:43 PM   #16
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Or just tear down the poor peoples houses to build 'em. Urban renewal money bolsters highway funds, a win-win for the city.
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Old 09-28-2010, 02:09 PM   #17
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This is the blob of whites in the middle of Detroit.
I thought so for a while, but Wayne State is relatively small; and as a cultural center, the Cass Corridor was also a large player in the civil rights movement. It's actually the tiny dot of not-blue further south-southwest, which is small enough not to show clearly on my edited map. I'm more struck by the solidity and length of the white/black split down 8-Mile road.

The main blob of whites is Hamtramck, a city notable for its diversity and recent influx of middle easterners. The two statistics I heard about it, which I've not verified at all, were that in total, students at the Hamtramck highschool spoke something on the order of 60 different languages, and that it was the largest Iraqi population outside of Iraq. A more solid, wikipedia-verified statistic, puts its population at 41% foreign-born.

I feel like these maps are sort of weirdly politicized and not informative enough: red, blue, and yellow on white doesn't give a even range of visual information; a person's address of record is only one part of their story, or the story of their community.
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Old 09-28-2010, 08:38 PM   #18
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At one time, Hamtramck had had more bars per capita than any other city in the US.
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Old 09-28-2010, 10:01 PM   #19
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They needed them at lunchtime and shift changes.
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Old 09-28-2010, 10:08 PM   #20
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Hamtramck was where I thought initially because of all the Polish culture there, but when i tried to map it, that was showing as the area to the east of the "white" blob. But I bow to your superior knowledge -I'm too scared to go to Detroit
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Old 09-28-2010, 10:34 PM   #21
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I am not sure what the point of this observation is other than "gee whiz". Other than during the 60's when the government introduced forced busing in an attempt to introduce integration what is the motivation of these observations. Should we have forced relocation?
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Old 09-28-2010, 10:39 PM   #22
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Yes, force all politicians to live in blue collar neighborhoods. Oh, and no sneaking out to second homes.
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Old 09-28-2010, 11:28 PM   #23
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I think xoB is on the right path, but instead of politicians being relocated
it should be the Federal Emergency Management Administration employees.

For example, if FEMA supervisors had been distributed one/block throughout New Orleans
right after Katrina, the entire city could have been rebuilt in just a year or two.
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Old 09-28-2010, 11:35 PM   #24
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If not at least their trailers would look like this.
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Old 09-29-2010, 09:54 PM   #25
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Hamtramck was where I thought initially because of all the Polish culture there, but when i tried to map it, that was showing as the area to the east of the "white" blob. But I bow to your superior knowledge -I'm too scared to go to Detroit
So this came up at lunch today and I mentioned this thread, and my friend who works in Hamtramck said it has been predominantly muslim for the last generation. The Polish have moved out and only the (Packzi) bakeries remain. The call to prayer is the predominant sound feature in the district.

Can't remember how the racial dots were divided/defined, but as muslim is a religion not a race, could still be that's what's causing the blob. They ain't black. In the main.
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Old 09-30-2010, 02:54 AM   #26
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The 2000 census for Hamtramck
Polish 22.9%
Black or African American 15.1%
Yugoslav 10.5%
Arab (Excluding Iraqi and Lebanese) 8.2%
Asian Indian 5.4%
Ukrainian 3.2%
German 2.9%
Albanian 2.8%
Bangladeshi 2.7%
Irish 2.2%
Italian 1.8%
Russia 1.4%
American 1.1%
French (except Basque) 0.8%
Lebanese 0.7%
Scottish 0.7%
Mexican 0.6%
Pakistani 0.6%
Macedonian 0.5%
Iraqi 0.5%
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Old 09-30-2010, 06:54 AM   #27
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During the election, the SBS website (for the multicultural channel) had a page where the ethnic breakdown for each electorate could be seen. I can't seem to find it, so I think they've taken it down (damn!)
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Old 09-30-2010, 07:09 AM   #28
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The 2000 census for Hamtramck
Polish 22.9%
Black or African American 15.1%
Yugoslav 10.5%
Arab (Excluding Iraqi and Lebanese) 8.2%
Asian Indian 5.4%
Ukrainian 3.2%
German 2.9%
Albanian 2.8%
Bangladeshi 2.7%
Irish 2.2%
Italian 1.8%
Russia 1.4%
American 1.1%
French (except Basque) 0.8%
Lebanese 0.7%
Scottish 0.7%
Mexican 0.6%
Pakistani 0.6%
Macedonian 0.5%
Iraqi 0.5%
Which just goes to show how meaningless it all is. I wonder if the 2.2% Irish were actually born there?
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Old 09-30-2010, 12:01 PM   #29
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Well that was 2000, and in 2004 they passed an ordinance in response to the broadcasting of mosque prayer calls, so the 2010 results would be interesting to see.
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Old 09-30-2010, 01:14 PM   #30
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The originals are huge images, but they give very detailed information.

http://www.radicalcartography.net/in...ml?chicagodots
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