CA on fire - Page 2

Urbane Guerrilla · 04-02-2007, 02:31 AM

My end of SoCal is, oh, just about enough like Mexico -- you get the authentic Mexican savor to the Mexican food. (No quiero Taco Bell.)

Blizzards cave your roof in if the wind didn't blow the snow off. I spent my teenage years in South Dakota. I haven't been back, and there's a reason.

Probably the best picture of the fire is the one of the smoke column and the Hollywood sign.

We get two kinds of fire seasons: early and late. This one's an early, and it happens in dry years, when the vegetation dries out the sooner and the fires get going, but there's not a great deal of foliage for them to burn. Late fire seasons are when we get a good year for rain and lots of plant growth, which then dries out later, and then the later fire season has lots to burn.

Aside from its location, this one is neither particularly bad nor especially remarkable. Now if we could just get the newsies to stop saying "wildfire" about every blaze not domesticated in a fireplace, we'd be making real progress. Let's have sense and sensibility, guys.

Wolf, I'm getting naughty thoughts of you squatting...:p And I don't do golden showers, living by the adage that it is better to be pissed off than pissed on.

xoxoxoBruce · 04-02-2007, 09:00 PM

Granted the "newsies" are a pain, but an uncontrolled fire is a wildfire, isn't it? Not a forest fire because of no forest. Oh and you're causing global warming, too.

TheMercenary · 04-02-2007, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Oh and you're causing global warming, too.

Somebody get me a Hot DOG!

Urbane Guerrilla · 04-15-2007, 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Granted the "newsies" are a pain, but an uncontrolled fire is a wildfire, isn't it? Not a forest fire because of no forest.

As a forest ranger's son who has seen a major fire and a couple minor ones counting that time the dry grass in the back yard got lit up one windy winter day -- little problem with bad ash from the trash incinerator -- I reserve the term wildfire for blazes crowning out in treetops and prairie fires running before forty mph winds: not merely not contained, but big fires moving very fast. Such fires as make genuine firestorms. A crowned out blaze in a large grove of tall trees gets close -- and you don't want to get close.

Generally, if it's not trees, it's brush. So, brush fire. It's also quite okay to just mention what kind of terrain is being burned over.

Stylistically, I'm okay with "wild fire" as two words -- but only okay. I think there are terms available that are both more accurate and more sensible.

glatt · 08-19-2016, 02:03 PM

California is on fire again. You hear about the one near LA in the news a fair amount this week, and may have an idea that there are one or two more, but there are 12 big ones:
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zippyt · 04-02-2007, 09:17 PM

When I was out there in the early 80's I helped a few of those out , hot nast work !!!

From Bullit (Capistrano Unified School District )
If you get to San Yun Caoistrano look up this little dinner called the SunSet dinner ( if it is still there ) WAY KILLER breakfast !!!!

Bullitt · 04-03-2007, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by zippyt

When I was out there in the early 80's I helped a few of those out , hot nast work !!!

From Bullit (Capistrano Unified School District )
If you get to San Yun Caoistrano look up this little dinner called the SunSet dinner ( if it is still there ) WAY KILLER breakfast !!!!

I think I may have been there some time ago. I used to live in Dana Point, I'm guessing you meant San Juan Capistrano.

zippyt · 04-03-2007, 08:25 PM

San Juan Capistrano.
San Yun Caoistrano
Damn that IS bad ain't it ???

Yeppers thats the place ,

Urbane Guerrilla · 04-07-2007, 04:53 AM

And if you're determined also, you can get goats' milk for cheese!

xoxoxoBruce · 04-07-2007, 05:22 PM

Back when Griff and BigV were bantering about goats, I read an article about a private enclave in CA that hired a farmer to bring in his goats and move them around the enclave to keep the vegetation under control. Worked like a charm, practically zero fire danger, cost nothing...... then the state said they couldn't do that. Fucking idiots.

zippyt · 04-08-2007, 12:37 AM

At Camp Pendelton in the early 80's they used to hire sheperds to have their herds graze in sections , it HELPED ( oh and the little lambs were TASTY !!! )

Griff · 04-08-2007, 08:49 AM

http://gaxed.com/pic/oij4nbv

Griff · 04-08-2007, 08:51 AM

http://gaxed.com/pic/dna9ziw

TheMercenary · 04-08-2007, 09:47 AM

Griff, great pics!

steambender · 04-09-2007, 10:53 PM

had goats on the neighborhood last fall, munching on the underbrush in the firebreaks. way cheaper than city crews...the people love it, but somewhere I think I read that the professionals are skeptical about actual benefits.

dunno, it seems like it would be poetic to let the local illegals, err... guest workers... manage the herds out of their tent encampments as a mutually agreeable public service.

04-02-2007, 02:31 AM	#1
Urbane Guerrilla Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,674	My end of SoCal is, oh, just about enough like Mexico -- you get the authentic Mexican savor to the Mexican food. (No quiero Taco Bell.) Blizzards cave your roof in if the wind didn't blow the snow off. I spent my teenage years in South Dakota. I haven't been back, and there's a reason. Probably the best picture of the fire is the one of the smoke column and the Hollywood sign. We get two kinds of fire seasons: early and late. This one's an early, and it happens in dry years, when the vegetation dries out the sooner and the fires get going, but there's not a great deal of foliage for them to burn. Late fire seasons are when we get a good year for rain and lots of plant growth, which then dries out later, and then the later fire season has lots to burn. Aside from its location, this one is neither particularly bad nor especially remarkable. Now if we could just get the newsies to stop saying "wildfire" about every blaze not domesticated in a fireplace, we'd be making real progress. Let's have sense and sensibility, guys. Wolf, I'm getting naughty thoughts of you squatting...:p And I don't do golden showers, living by the adage that it is better to be pissed off than pissed on. __________________ Wanna stop school shootings? End Gun-Free Zones, of course. Last edited by Urbane Guerrilla; 04-02-2007 at 02:36 AM.

04-02-2007, 09:00 PM	#2
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Granted the "newsies" are a pain, but an uncontrolled fire is a wildfire, isn't it? Not a forest fire because of no forest. Oh and you're causing global warming, too. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

08-19-2016, 02:03 PM	#5
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	California is on fire again. You hear about the one near LA in the news a fair amount this week, and may have an idea that there are one or two more, but there are 12 big ones: Last edited by glatt; 08-19-2016 at 02:08 PM.

04-02-2007, 09:17 PM	#6
zippyt LONG LIVE KING ZIPPY! per Feetz Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arkansas Posts: 7,661	When I was out there in the early 80's I helped a few of those out , hot nast work !!! From Bullit (Capistrano Unified School District ) If you get to San Yun Caoistrano look up this little dinner called the SunSet dinner ( if it is still there ) WAY KILLER breakfast !!!! __________________ "Success is getting what you want. Happiness is wanting what you get. " Brother Dave Gardner

04-03-2007, 08:25 PM	#8
zippyt LONG LIVE KING ZIPPY! per Feetz Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arkansas Posts: 7,661	San Juan Capistrano. San Yun Caoistrano Damn that IS bad ain't it ??? Yeppers thats the place , __________________ "Success is getting what you want. Happiness is wanting what you get. " Brother Dave Gardner

04-07-2007, 04:53 AM	#9
Urbane Guerrilla Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,674	And if you're determined also, you can get goats' milk for cheese!

04-07-2007, 05:22 PM	#10
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Back when Griff and BigV were bantering about goats, I read an article about a private enclave in CA that hired a farmer to bring in his goats and move them around the enclave to keep the vegetation under control. Worked like a charm, practically zero fire danger, cost nothing...... then the state said they couldn't do that. Fucking idiots. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

04-08-2007, 12:37 AM	#11
zippyt LONG LIVE KING ZIPPY! per Feetz Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arkansas Posts: 7,661	At Camp Pendelton in the early 80's they used to hire sheperds to have their herds graze in sections , it HELPED ( oh and the little lambs were TASTY !!! ) __________________ "Success is getting what you want. Happiness is wanting what you get. " Brother Dave Gardner

04-08-2007, 08:49 AM	#12
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	http://gaxed.com/pic/oij4nbv __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

04-08-2007, 08:51 AM	#13
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	http://gaxed.com/pic/dna9ziw __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

04-08-2007, 09:47 AM	#14
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	Griff, great pics! __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

04-09-2007, 10:53 PM	#15
steambender It just needs a minor tweak...here... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: kitty corner from where I grew up Posts: 48	had goats on the neighborhood last fall, munching on the underbrush in the firebreaks. way cheaper than city crews...the people love it, but somewhere I think I read that the professionals are skeptical about actual benefits. dunno, it seems like it would be poetic to let the local illegals, err... guest workers... manage the herds out of their tent encampments as a mutually agreeable public service.

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