The Anti-State - Page 2

10-12-2006, 03:27 PM

Anti-gun control is not anti. It is for freedom. You can't be anti-anti.
And I have no issue with background checks, no felons, and simple firearm registration... but it stops there. No limitations on types of weapons, how many owned, or interpersonal sales, carry laws, etc.

Anti-free market?... you have me confused with someone else.

I believe in limited environmental regulation, not the same thing by any stretch of the imagination.

glatt · 10-12-2006, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by rkzenrage

No limitations on types of weapons, how many owned, or interpersonal sales, carry laws, etc.

So you are OK if I have a bio warfare lab in my basement producing anthrax powder? Or if I have a nuclear warhead? Or a rocket launcher? Or a m-60? All those things are weapons. Are they all fine for me and everyone else to have?

Elspode · 10-12-2006, 03:40 PM

Oooh! Ooohhh!!! I want to be able to carry a pocket nuke for personal protection! Cool!

glatt · 10-12-2006, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Elspode

Oooh! Ooohhh!!! I want to be able to carry a pocket nuke for personal protection! Cool!

Maybe in a motorcycle side car.

10-12-2006, 03:41 PM

We are talking about guns. You took "weapon" out of context and you know it. There is no need to twist what I say.
I know someone with an M-60... there would be no way to rob a bank with it, trust me on that.

You can buy large weapons on the black market, I know. Tell me why they are not used in crimes, if this is your fear.

Elspode · 10-12-2006, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by rkzenrage

I know someone with an M-60... there would be no way to rob a bank with it, trust me on that.

You can buy large weapons on the black market, I know. Tell me why they are not used in crimes, if this is your fear.

You could mount it on a Hummer and smash into the lobby with it.

I imagine the lack of concealability is why you don't see a lot of LAWS rockets being used in gas station robberies. Well, that, and they're incredibly expensive. Your average crimes are committed by people who want a relatively small and accessible amount of cash, so it isn't really cost effective to use tactical weapons in your average crime.

Happy Monkey · 10-12-2006, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by rkzenrage

We are talking about guns. You took "weapon" out of context and you know it.

Do "arms" in the First Amendment only refer to personal firearms?

I'd think there was personal ownership of larger weapons, like cannon, at the time, but what would the early US government's views be on personal ownership of, say, a fully armed warship?

10-12-2006, 03:57 PM

And you would destroy what you are trying to steal... think a little.

10-12-2006, 04:19 PM

I think it refers to personal arms. Not just personal firearms, but not large military grade weapons like bio, nukes, dirty weapons, armored mobile cannons/tanks, personnel carriers, etc.
So, if you want to own an 50cal, which some of my friends and family do, no sweat, anyone who is not a violent felon who wants to conceal carry a firearm from state to state, no sweat. I have no problem with a cannon. They are very impractical for anything but a compound, something I think someone has the right to have. Our family will have one soon... well, this branch.
Also, it is no one's damn business how many fucking rounds I own or if I self pack or not.

Spexxvet · 10-12-2006, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by rkzenrage

I think it refers to personal arms. ...

I think it refers to rolls of toilet paper!:p

Happy Monkey · 10-12-2006, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by rkzenrage

I think it refers to personal arms. Not just personal firearms, but not large military grade weapons like ...

But how do you make the distinction? Anything you can carry? Anything that can be operated by one or two people? Why not a personnel carrier? It's just a truck with armor and a couple of 50cals, right? (I didn't look that up, but substitute actual armament)

Spexxvet · 10-12-2006, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by rkzenrage

I think it refers to personal arms. ..

Actually, I'll drop all my gun issues if you agree that the only guns to be possessed by citizens will be of the technology available in 1789.

10-14-2006, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet

Actually, I'll drop all my gun issues if you agree that the only guns to be possessed by citizens will be of the technology available in 1789.

As long as that is what all cops and military get too, fine.

xoxoxoBruce · 10-17-2006, 06:59 PM

And criminals, especially the criminals.

10-18-2006, 06:46 PM

Nawwww... antis don't really care about what they have... hell they can have rockets for all they care. Just as long as law abiding citizens don't have them.

10-12-2006, 03:40 PM	#3
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10-17-2006, 06:59 PM	#14
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10-12-2006, 03:27 PM	#1
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	Anti-gun control is not anti. It is for freedom. You can't be anti-anti. And I have no issue with background checks, no felons, and simple firearm registration... but it stops there. No limitations on types of weapons, how many owned, or interpersonal sales, carry laws, etc. Anti-free market?... you have me confused with someone else. I believe in limited environmental regulation, not the same thing by any stretch of the imagination.

10-12-2006, 03:41 PM	#5
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	We are talking about guns. You took "weapon" out of context and you know it. There is no need to twist what I say. I know someone with an M-60... there would be no way to rob a bank with it, trust me on that. You can buy large weapons on the black market, I know. Tell me why they are not used in crimes, if this is your fear.

10-12-2006, 03:57 PM	#8
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	And you would destroy what you are trying to steal... think a little.

10-12-2006, 04:19 PM	#9
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	I think it refers to personal arms. Not just personal firearms, but not large military grade weapons like bio, nukes, dirty weapons, armored mobile cannons/tanks, personnel carriers, etc. So, if you want to own an 50cal, which some of my friends and family do, no sweat, anyone who is not a violent felon who wants to conceal carry a firearm from state to state, no sweat. I have no problem with a cannon. They are very impractical for anything but a compound, something I think someone has the right to have. Our family will have one soon... well, this branch. Also, it is no one's damn business how many fucking rounds I own or if I self pack or not.

10-18-2006, 06:46 PM	#15
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	Nawwww... antis don't really care about what they have... hell they can have rockets for all they care. Just as long as law abiding citizens don't have them.

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