Happy Tax Day!

[elSicomoro]

Originally posted by Radar
The "cult" of constitution followers. Scary.

Constitutional followers my ass...you yourself don't follow the 16th amendment.

[xoxoxoBruce]

The "cult" of constitution followers. Scary

Any cult is scary, no matter what their intended purpose.

[Cam]

Originally posted by sycamore


Constitutional followers my ass...you yourself don't follow the 16th amendment.

Damn it syc, don't you remember that the 16th amendment is not part of the constitution. You need to listen to Radar more, he's the foremost scholar of the constitution, whatever he says is so.

[elSicomoro]

Until a court decision says otherwise, the 16th amendment is. No amount of documentation, fact-finding, personal statements, etc. matters until the courts say so.

And that's what I know...so pbbbt!

[Cam]

Originally posted by sycamore
Until a court decision says otherwise, the 16th amendment is. No amount of documentation, fact-finding, personal statements, etc. matters until the courts say so.

And that's what I know...so pbbbt!

I'll toast to that, if for no other reason than having an excuse to have a beer.

[elSicomoro]

Originally posted by Cam
You need to listen to Radar more, he's the foremost scholar of the constitution, whatever he says is so.

Yeah...I could probably get a better argument from a high schooler than this...thing...on the Constitution.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Beer, hey Radar... er bartender...more beer.

[elSicomoro]

Yeah! Radar can be our beer bitch...he'll need to get used to being a bitch anyway, with the whole prison gig possibly approaching and all.

[Whit]

     All right guys, you've had your fun. Now be nice and quit teasing the libertarian.

[elSicomoro]

Originally posted by Whit
All right guys, you've had your fun. Now be nice and quit teasing the libertarian.

It's not about teasing the libertarian. It's about poking fun at the asswipe from California who happens to be a violent libertarian.

[Radar]

Constitutional followers my ass...you yourself don't follow the 16th amendment.

I've already proven for a FACT that the 16th amendment wasn't legally ratified and is thus not a part of the constitution.

Allow me to direct you to Article VI paragraph 2 of the constitution which states...

This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding.

Which means no part of the constitution may be added that is contrary to any of the rest of the constitution. The 16th amendment goes directly against the main body of the Constitution which says...

No capitation, or other direct, tax shall be laid, unless in proportion to the census or enumeration herein before directed to be taken.

That alone makes it unconstitutional. But given the fact that there weren't even close to the number of votes required to pass the amendment since many of the states violated their own state constitutions when voting on the matter and changed the language of the amendment before signing it.

It's unconstitutional also because it violates the 13th amendment and the 5th amendment. But we've been through this. There is no doubt what-so-ever that the 16th amendment IS NOT part of the constitution.

I'm a strict constitutionalist.

Any cult is scary, no matter what their intended purpose

I'm not a member of any cult. But those who want to discount what others are doing accuse them of being in a cult. For instance some religions call themselves religions but discount other religions as "cults".

You need to listen to Radar more, he's the foremost scholar of the constitution, whatever he says is so.

Not what I say, what the Constitution says. Not what I want it to say, or wish it said like many of you, but what it really says in black and white. And you're correct about me being a constitutional scholar.

Until a court decision says otherwise, the 16th amendment is. No amount of documentation, fact-finding, personal statements, etc. matters until the courts say so.

Court decisions don't mean shit. The highest law in the land is the Constitution. Not what the courts claim the Constitution says, or what case law says. There need not be any court case regarding the 16th amendment. And there won't be one since the corrupt Supreme Court won't hear it.

And that's what I know...so pbbbt!

So you're saying you don't know shit.

I'll toast to that, if for no other reason than having an excuse to have a beer.

I don't need an excuse to have a beer. I'm Irish.

[Cam]

I was going to tell you to pull the stick out of your ass Radar then I read your last line, put me in a better mood I didn't think you had a bit of fun in you.

[Radar]

Yeah...I could probably get a better argument from a high schooler than this...thing...on the Constitution.

A high schooler would be beyond your comprehension.

Yeah! Radar can be our beer bitch...he'll need to get used to being a bitch anyway, with the whole prison gig possibly approaching and all.

If I go to prison it'll only be to visit you and give you more soap on a rope.

It's not about teasing the libertarian. It's about poking fun at the asswipe from California who happens to be a violent libertarian.

No, it's about you being a dickhead. I'm not a violent person. But I will kill or die to defend my country and my rights when I'm attacked. And that's happening right now. If the government stuck to the Constitution and didn't attack our civil rights, I'd never even think about taking up arms in my defense against them.

[Cam]

Okay I was wrong you really do need to pull that stick out of your ass.

[elSicomoro]

Nope...sorry. Don't buy it. 16th amendment stands. The end. Thank you and good night.

Originally posted by Radar
So you're saying you don't know shit.

Actually, I know lots of shit. An easy glance at some of my 4100 some-odd posts and a quick survey of the regulars would make your above assertion laughable.

I pity you, Radar...know why? Because you are nothing more than a rabblerouser who tries to push his opinions as fact. A ballbag who takes his view of the Constitution (which is merely another interpretation of said document) and tries to cram it down others' throats. You're just another Cairo, another George W. Bush, another John Ashcroft...an unfortunate mistake that acts as an impediment to making the United States greater than it already is. You and your kind bring down the collective IQ of our nation.

You have yet to win an argument here. For all the knowledge you have, you lose by virtue of your asinine online personality. My funniest posts will be taken more seriously than any fecal matter you throw on this site.

So, why don't you fetch me that beer, bitch, then run along to that constitutional altar that you worship. While you're at it, keep telling yourself, "I'm right! I'm always right on the Constitution! They're all wrong! All wrong!" Murmur it to yourself quietly, like a lullaby.

You seem so intelligent...and yet you're such a waste. A pity. But I'll tell ya what...when you get your shit together, and want to talk on the level that most folks here know as "reality," don't hesitate to post. I'll be waiting for that day.