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Old 10-20-2011, 08:03 PM   #1
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[mathsnerd] Two points defines a line. Three would define a plane unless they're all on the same line. Four defines a space, similar caveat. Higher dimensional phase spaces cann be defined by ... [/youdon'treallycaredoyou?]
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Old 10-20-2011, 08:05 PM   #2
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um... not if they're all the same point, every time
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Old 10-20-2011, 08:31 PM   #3
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Are you referring to geometry or the posts of certain individuals?
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Old 10-20-2011, 08:35 PM   #4
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Old 10-20-2011, 08:36 PM   #5
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Old 10-21-2011, 07:53 AM   #6
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Thanks to the innovations of entrepreneurs, today in America, even poor people have clean water, TV sets, cars, and flush toilets. Most live better than kings once lived—better even than the middle class lived in 1970.
I'm going to guess this silly statement hinges on the plurality of cars? Because a middle class family in 1970 certainly had one. Often the only reason they didn't have two was because the mother stayed home and didn't need one. And while a middle class family may or may not have had a television in 1970, that wasn't because they were too poor to afford common consumer goods, but because TVs were contemporary high technology. Unless the poor people of today all own iPhones, it's not comparable.
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Old 10-21-2011, 11:49 AM   #7
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Old 10-21-2011, 03:18 PM   #8
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Unless the poor people of today all own iPhones, it's not comparable.
Why should poor people own iPhones and why would that even be a goal?
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Old 10-21-2011, 03:28 PM   #9
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Buying the iPhone isn't even that big of a deal, it's paying the monthly service charge.
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Old 10-21-2011, 03:17 PM   #10
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I love it. Next we will see all the sour milk marching on Wall Street!
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Old 10-21-2011, 06:12 PM   #11
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The point being that the taxpayers need to make sure there is parity. There will never be parity. Someone needs to make my coffee at starbucks while I do my job.
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The point being that the taxpayers need to make sure there is parity. There will never be parity. Someone needs to make my coffee at starbucks while I do my job.
You might be seeking parity, or equality, but no one I've heard from the OWS movement has said that. I have heard that they're seeking less unfairness. I agree that there will never be parity, and that's fine. But that someone who's making your coffee at Starbucks needs to be making enough money to live and thrive. There needs to be greater opportunity for your barrista to improve their standard of living.

Starbucks are generally located in urban areas. Housing is expensive in the city. Transportation from areas with less expensive housing to the place where the Starbucks is located costs money, everything costs money. Starbucks is extremely progressive in that they offer their employees full health benefits, regardless of their employment status. But that's a rare exception. Healthcare costs money. The standard of living for someone making your coffee will be extremely restricted. For you to get your coffee made, you should support a system that makes possible for Starbucks to thrive, and that means happy productive employees.

It's in your self interest to do so.
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Old 10-26-2011, 08:45 PM   #13
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You might be seeking parity, or equality, but no one I've heard from the OWS movement has said that. I have heard that they're seeking less unfairness. I agree that there will never be parity, and that's fine. But that someone who's making your coffee at Starbucks needs to be making enough money to live and thrive. There needs to be greater opportunity for your barrista to improve their standard of living.

Starbucks are generally located in urban areas. Housing is expensive in the city. Transportation from areas with less expensive housing to the place where the Starbucks is located costs money, everything costs money. Starbucks is extremely progressive in that they offer their employees full health benefits, regardless of their employment status. But that's a rare exception. Healthcare costs money. The standard of living for someone making your coffee will be extremely restricted. For you to get your coffee made, you should support a system that makes possible for Starbucks to thrive, and that means happy productive employees.

It's in your self interest to do so.
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Old 10-21-2011, 06:16 PM   #14
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Why should poor people own iPhones and why would that even be a goal?
It's not, and they shouldn't. The point is, poor people today don't generally own iPhones, just like poor people in the 70s didn't own TVs. Stoessel was trying to equate television ownership in the 70s to television ownership today, and the two are not equal comparisons. Poor people today own TVs because you can get one for $10 at the pawn shop. You can't, however, get an iPhone for that price, just like you couldn't get a TV for that little back in the 70s.
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Wall Street weighs in

A Letter from Goldman Sachs Concerning Occupy Wall Street

NEW YORK (The Borowitz Report)– The following is a letter released today by Lloyd Blankfein, the chairman of banking giant Goldman Sachs:

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Dear Investor:

Up until now, Goldman Sachs has been silent on the subject of the protest movement known as Occupy Wall Street. That does not mean, however, that it has not been very much on our minds. As thousands have gathered in Lower Manhattan, passionately expressing their deep discontent with the status quo, we have taken note of these protests. And we have asked ourselves this question:

How can we make money off them?

The answer is the newly launched Goldman Sachs Global Rage Fund, whose investment objective is to monetize the Occupy Wall Street protests as they spread around the world. At Goldman, we recognize that the capitalist system as we know it is circling the drain – but there’s plenty of money to be made on the way down.

The Rage Fund will seek out opportunities to invest in products that are poised to benefit from the spreading protests, from police batons and barricades to stun guns and forehead bandages. Furthermore, as clashes between police and protesters turn ever more violent, we are making significant bets on companies that manufacture replacements for broken windows and overturned cars, as well as the raw materials necessary for the construction and incineration of effigies.

It would be tempting, at a time like this, to say “Let them eat cake.” But at Goldman, we are actively seeking to corner the market in cake futures. We project that through our aggressive market manipulation, the price of a piece of cake will quadruple by the end of 2011.

Please contact your Goldman representative for a full prospectus. As the world descends into a Darwinian free-for-all, the Goldman Sachs Rage Fund is a great way to tell the protesters, “Occupy this.” We haven’t felt so good about something we’ve sold since our souls.

Sincerely,

Lloyd Blankfein

Chairman, Goldman Sachs
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