Obama has won the nomination - Page 14

Clodfobble · 08-09-2008, 09:24 AM

One of his staffers is claiming to be the father of the baby, and I don't think the mistress is saying it's Edwards' either.

TheMercenary · 08-11-2008, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble

One of his staffers is claiming to be the father of the baby, and I don't think the mistress is saying it's Edwards' either.

People like Edwards are surrounded by others who are willing to fall on a landmine for them. Anyone in that political group has them.

classicman · 08-11-2008, 09:07 PM

A Clinton aide is bitchin now that she woulda coulda shoulda won if this had come out earlier...

Clodfobble · 08-11-2008, 10:17 PM

That doesn't even make sense. Why would Edwards' scandal have hurt Obama while helping her?

ZenGum · 08-11-2008, 11:05 PM

Well, she probably hasn't fathered any love-children....

Griff · 08-12-2008, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble

That doesn't even make sense. Why would Edwards' scandal have hurt Obama while helping her?

They both have racist unionist appeal?

classicman · 08-12-2008, 07:34 AM

He felt that the electoral votes that Edwards won MAY have gone to her. Had that happened...

Ibby · 08-12-2008, 06:58 PM

Actually, it isn't true though. for example...

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Rasmussen. 1/31. Likely voters. MOE 4% (last poll taken by anyone with Edwards in the mix)

Clinton 47
Obama 38
Edwards 11

Actual results:

Obama 49.3
Clinton 47.1
Edwards 1.7

or

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two of the last Iowa polls before the caucuses.

Mason-Dixon for McClatchy-MSNBC. 12/26-28, 2007. MoE 5%

"As you may know, if a candidate fails to get at least 15% at a precinct caucus their supporters can switch and choose to caucus with those backing other candidates or declare themselves uncommitted. If the candidate you are supporting fails to reach the 15% threshold at your precinct ... Which candidate would become your second choice?""

Edwards 32
Obama 20
Clinton 16

Opinion Research Corp for CNN. 12/26-30, 2007. MoE 5%

"If the presidential caucus in Iowa were held today, please tell me which of the following people ... would be your second choice?"

Edwards 36
Obama 25
Clinton 11

(www.dailykos.com)

classicman · 08-12-2008, 09:58 PM

I wouldn't believe dailykos if they told me today was Tuesday - sorry.

But again - the Clinton aide was the one whining - not me. I'm glad she lost.

TheMercenary · 08-16-2008, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by classicman

I wouldn't believe dailykos if they told me today was Tuesday - sorry.

But again - the Clinton aide was the one whining - not me. I'm glad she lost.

Second.

deadbeater · 08-16-2008, 04:56 PM

Yeah, if Mark Penn had his way, the Clintons would all but make Blacks start a new third party and run them out of Harlem. Good thing the Clintons adjusted in midstream, and make it on this side of a halfway decent primary fight. What a schmuck Penn was. If the Republicans had operatives in the Democatic party, they would do no better than Penn.

Griff · 08-18-2008, 08:31 AM

[cynic] Apparently Obama and McCain got together at one of those mega-churches where people go to be anonymous before God. That probably isn't fair but for someone raised in rural community churches it just looks like spiritual fast food. People in large single minded groups where the individual submits to group will make me nervous whether they're Cub Scouts, metal heads, Christians or [godwin]Nazis[/godwin]. The ever creepy neo-com William Kristol did manage to tease out a difference between McCain and Obama on the question of confronting evil. From my reading of it McCain will follow the Bush plan of feeding evil by commiting disproportionate evil and Obama won't really say. For a while I was feeling good that Bush would leave and things would improve, but these guys weaken the positive vibrations.[/cynic]

Pico and ME · 08-18-2008, 09:07 AM

The only 'Evil' the US confronts are the 'evil-doers' who are in the way of what the US wants. The government paints it with the 'We are the Do-Gooders' brush stroke to make its actions more palatable to its voting public. I wish I could hear one of them, one day, say that our oil chasing days are over and we all better start tightening our seat belts because energy independence is going to start out as a really rough ride.

TheMercenary · 08-18-2008, 10:03 PM

Well sorry but we are not "chasing oil". I have no idea where you go that idea from but if you could provide us with some non-partisan original source links to that notion I would love to read them. We all certainly know that neither China nor India are chasing any oil reserves in any nefarious capacity.

xoxoxoBruce · 08-19-2008, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Well sorry but we are not "chasing oil".

Can you prove that? How about if you could provide us with some non-partisan original source links to that notion, I would love to read them. :p

08-09-2008, 09:24 AM	#1
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08-11-2008, 09:07 PM	#3
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	A Clinton aide is bitchin now that she woulda coulda shoulda won if this had come out earlier... __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

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Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	That doesn't even make sense. Why would Edwards' scandal have hurt Obama while helping her? __________________ My book My other book My spirit animal

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08-12-2008, 07:34 AM	#7
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	He felt that the electoral votes that Edwards won MAY have gone to her. Had that happened... __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

08-12-2008, 09:58 PM	#9
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	I wouldn't believe dailykos if they told me today was Tuesday - sorry. But again - the Clinton aide was the one whining - not me. I'm glad she lost. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

08-16-2008, 04:56 PM	#11
deadbeater Sir Post-A-Lot Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 439	Yeah, if Mark Penn had his way, the Clintons would all but make Blacks start a new third party and run them out of Harlem. Good thing the Clintons adjusted in midstream, and make it on this side of a halfway decent primary fight. What a schmuck Penn was. If the Republicans had operatives in the Democatic party, they would do no better than Penn. Last edited by deadbeater; 08-16-2008 at 05:02 PM.

08-18-2008, 08:31 AM	#12
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	[cynic] Apparently Obama and McCain got together at one of those mega-churches where people go to be anonymous before God. That probably isn't fair but for someone raised in rural community churches it just looks like spiritual fast food. People in large single minded groups where the individual submits to group will make me nervous whether they're Cub Scouts, metal heads, Christians or [godwin]Nazis[/godwin]. The ever creepy neo-com William Kristol did manage to tease out a difference between McCain and Obama on the question of confronting evil. From my reading of it McCain will follow the Bush plan of feeding evil by commiting disproportionate evil and Obama won't really say. For a while I was feeling good that Bush would leave and things would improve, but these guys weaken the positive vibrations.[/cynic] __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

08-18-2008, 09:07 AM	#13
Pico and ME Are you knock-kneed? Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Middle Hoosierland Posts: 3,549	The only 'Evil' the US confronts are the 'evil-doers' who are in the way of what the US wants. The government paints it with the 'We are the Do-Gooders' brush stroke to make its actions more palatable to its voting public. I wish I could hear one of them, one day, say that our oil chasing days are over and we all better start tightening our seat belts because energy independence is going to start out as a really rough ride.

08-18-2008, 10:03 PM	#14
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	Well sorry but we are not "chasing oil". I have no idea where you go that idea from but if you could provide us with some non-partisan original source links to that notion I would love to read them. We all certainly know that neither China nor India are chasing any oil reserves in any nefarious capacity. __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

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