Men Abortion and Choice

LOL... touchy.
That goes both ways, if she does not want to share the responsibility of having a child WITH a man she needs to keep her legs closed.

[lumberjim]

if more women would swallow, we wouldnt have this problem!

[DanaC]

Wow! He D'int....ohmigod he fuckin did!

[DanaC]

rk. honey ya know I loves ya loads but really you are soundin pretty fuckin ugly right now.

[Aliantha]

rkz, that's the point. And I"m not touchy, I'm just having a problem with the fact that you seem to think this is an ideal world where men really do want to take sole responsibility for their children concieved with women they obviously have no respect for. I say obviously because if there is mutual respect between two parties, that means they should be able to come to some mutual consensus between themselves. They shouldn't have to 'go and tell tales' just so they can get their own way.

Of course there are some men who love to take responsibility for their children, and they're usually the ones in stable relationships where issues like this are solved without the need to bring laws into it.

[DanaC]

I am still reeling from the fact that a guy can seriously be breathing the air of this particular century and still think he has the right to final veto over 'his' woman's body. Whether or not there are hordes of guys ready and waiting to take full responsibility for unexpected children, frankly, is by the by. Whilst it's in my fucking belly, it's part of me. The only person who gets to make decisions about my body is me.

[Aliantha]

While I still agree with that point Dana, I do believe that different decisions are made based on the level of importance of the relationship between the man and the woman. Women will give more consideration to the mans wishes if they feel cared for as a person and not simply as an incubator.

[DanaC]

Of course they will. I cannot imagine making such a decision without taking his view into account. Taking him into account and agreeing to have an abortion are two very different things. They may, or may not coincide.

[DanaC]

If men feel so strongly about the fate of their sperm, they should maybe go for a vasectomy, or practise abstinence

[DanaC]

And here.

[Aliantha]

And pretty much every other woman you ask will say the same.

[DanaC]

except wolf

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by Aliantha

And pretty much every other woman you ask will say the same.

Originally Posted by DanaC

except wolf

Wolf is a woman?

[Aliantha]

Somehow, I don't see wolf allowing a man to tell her what to do about her own health, unless he happened to be a healthcare professional.

Edit: I don't see her allowing a woman to either though, and I think that's the point. Just because the person carrying the child happens to be a woman doesn't give anyone, including the sperm donor who happens to be a man, a right to tell her what her rights are.

[Flint]

Originally Posted by Aliantha

... happens to be a woman ... happens to be a man ...

Removing what they "happen to be" from consideration removes the debate from reality, IE the sexes are not reproductively equal.