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12-08-2006, 12:17 PM
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Snowflake
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imagine this, but six times...
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****************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio |
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12-08-2006, 12:26 PM
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twatfaced two legged bumhole
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And with that, this thread is finished
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12-08-2006, 12:48 PM
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a real smartass
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12-08-2006, 03:15 PM
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go ahead, abbrev. it
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aren't we back on the treadmill?
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12-08-2006, 03:23 PM
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still eats dirt
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12-08-2006, 03:41 PM
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a real smartass
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12-08-2006, 05:24 PM
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The future is unwritten
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By the way, the question doesn't say it's a jet.
Just as it doesn't say the planes movement is relative to any thing.:p
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12-09-2006, 09:03 AM
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changed his status to single
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What TW Meantto say
It's George Jr's fault...mental midget....seven seconds... top management... limbaugh disciples... no WMD...
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12-09-2006, 09:23 AM
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The future is unwritten
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The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump. |
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12-09-2006, 12:58 PM
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Read? I only know how to write.
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12-09-2006, 09:15 AM
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in the Hour of Scampering
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As long as the "it won't fly" people are continuing to be maroons, let me point out that an airplane sitting on the runway with the engine *off* (or with no engine at all) will take off all by itself if the wind speed exceeds the stall speed. This is why we tie aircraft down: wheel chocks aren't sufficient in the case of a lightly wing-loaded aircraft in the presence of a stiff breeze.
With sufficient wind speed, an airplane can take off (or be landed) with *zero* forward motion relative to the ground. There's a standard airshow demo that's done in STOL-type airplanes (Piper Cub, or maybe a Maule or Zenith CH-701) that involves hovering and even flying backwards when the wind speed is high enough.
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12-08-2006, 06:49 PM
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Read? I only know how to write.
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Clearly this problem has so confused so many and yet no one has yet asked about landing. Are there terrorists among us?
Just another reference point to keep us confused. |
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12-09-2006, 09:06 AM
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~~Life is either a daring adventure or nothing.~~
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The original question says the treadmill matches the planes speed. It cancels out. The plane isn't moving forward to create airflow over and under the wings so it isn't going to fly.
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12-09-2006, 09:37 AM
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Coronation Incarnate
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it's a trick question.
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The treadmill can make the wheels be still by matching the forward movement of the plane. it can make the wheels roll backward while the plane moves forward by moving faster than the speed of the plane. it can make the wheels move forward by moving slower than the speed of the plane. But until the plane becomes a car with a drive shaft mechanicallly linked to the engines the movement of the wheels will have no effect on the movement of the plane.
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12-09-2006, 11:05 AM
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Snowflake
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****************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio |
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