Deadly Swine Flu Outbreak - Page 13

jinx · 10-25-2009, 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Funny. I have heard nothing but the opposit. Most cases are and have always been the routine seasonal flu.

Maybe you could email Obama and Frieden and let them know they are freaking out over nothing? Someone should tell them...

Juniper · 10-25-2009, 07:55 PM

Just a few comments, some merely anecdotal.

First, despite the "state of emergency," the fact that I personally know of three families in our school district who were hit with documented H1N1, and the fact that one kid in our district *died* from H1N1 (along with other health issues that have not been elaborated upon) our school superintendent says that we have only one or two documented cases and therefore don't really have a problem, and despite pressure from the county he refuses to close the schools.

Which is OK with me, really. I just wish he'd be more honest about how much of the H1N1 has been diagnosed.

Second, my son came down with the flu Thurs. night. Ugh. Took him to the urgent care, hoping to get him tested to see what strain he had, and to get some Tamiflu. Well, they refused to test him - said they had stopped doing the tests - and refused to prescribe Tamiflu, saying they were told to save it for kids with asthma. Phooey.

So I took him to the regular doctor the next day. They did the rapid test - which came out negative for *any* flu, though it was obvious the kid had the flu. Why else would he have a 101 temp, headache, achy legs, and feel like crap? (Strep test was neg.) Doctor said the tests were developed before the H1N1 outbreak so they didn't detect it most of the time anyway. Huh? I wasn't impressed with this doctor. I sure wouldn't want to rely on him for a serious health problem. He didn't advise Tamiflu, but prescribed it after I asked, though he was unsure what the proper dose was and had to go look it up, mumble mumble mumble something about compounding a suspension from mumble mumble . . . no, I didn't like him at all, good thing I do my own 'net research and have a (kinda) clear head.

Oh, and he also had a double ear infection, which the urgent care missed; they'd said his ears were fine even though I specifically asked to check them twice. Hm. So we got antibiotics for the ears, too.

Got the Tamiflu in what this doc said was exactly the right dose. My son puked once, which could have been the flu, could have been the med - but was fine after that. Thurs. and Fri. were kind of rough for him, but Sat. he felt pretty good, and today was back to his old self. He's going to school tomorrow. Who knows if it was the Tamiflu that helped? I think it did, that's a pretty short convalescence from the flu.

Now my hubby is sick too. I guess my daughter will be next. I hope it's the regular flu, because I had a flu shot.

I didn't want to get a flu shot, but the doctor talked me into it and I thought, gosh, what if everyone gets sick and I have to take care of them? They sure as hell won't take care of ME. Good thing, huh? I'd never gotten one before and I probably wouldn't have if I wasn't in college and had the luxury to stay home and rest without worrying about missing a quiz or something. My arm was sore for about a week, that's all.

That's my little flu story. Fun times.

We missed the deadline to turn in the H1N1 permission slip for school - they're doing it at the kids' school sometime next week, I think. May be just as well, because I haven't made up my mind about it.

TheMercenary · 10-26-2009, 02:25 PM

We did just have a 3 1/2 year old healthy girl die from a flu a week and a half ago. The news reports stated it would be weeks before we know if it was H1N1. As a precaution they did shut her pre-school and disinfect it for a week. Sounds like a lot of people are getting sick with some flu strain. It will interesting to know if they can still get it twice with each strain. Makes good sense that this would happen.

10-26-2009, 07:06 PM

One of our local high schools has 25% of it's student body with confirmed H1N1 cases. It hasn't hit my kids elementary school yet (knock knock), but it's only a matter of time I guess since many of the kids there have older sibs at the HS. Pretty scary.

My son was home sick today (not the flu) and when I talked to another mother she said there were only eleven of twenty seven kids in attendance in his class.

A classmate of my kindergartner was out for two weeks with scarlet fever. I feel like we're in the hot spot for all the bugs!

I have washed my hands so much they are shriveled up!

TheMercenary · 10-27-2009, 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by musikbox10

One of our local high schools has 25% of it's student body with confirmed H1N1 cases.

They sent labs out on everyone of those kids for conformation of H1N1? Somehow I doubt that.

Most states are doing something like this in Alabama:

Quote:

Rapid influenza diagnostic tests positive for A or A/B are highly predictive of novel H1N1. H1N1 is less likely if the rapid test is positive for B. Negative rapid tests do not rule out H1N1. Several commercial laboratories offer H1N1 PCR testing, but routine confirmatory testing is not necessary and treatment decisions should not be delayed pending off-site test results. Because of the widespread prevalence of the disease and finite capacity of the ADPH laboratory, ADPH must restrict testing to hospitalized patients, pregnant women, and a fixed number of patients seen weekly by a statewide network of designated practices. This approach will allow ADPH to confirm the diagnosis in severely ill persons and pregnant women and identify circulating influenza subtypes.

http://www.wkrg.com/alabama/article/...-2009_4-11-pm/

And in Arizona:

http://www.kpho.com/health/21301528/detail.html

Most are using rapid testing and then making an assumption about the sub-type. The details are here:

http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/guidance/rapid_testing.htm

Undertoad · 11-05-2009, 10:14 PM

J's daughter is flu-bound. They didn't test her but the doc believes it's H1N1, based on what he's seen in the public. If it's what I had, I shrugged it off in short order. We both started out coughing up lungs, her fever is far worse than mine. H1N1 is supposed to be less incapacitating in the older crowd because we have built up defenses over the years.

kerosene · 11-06-2009, 04:19 PM

I am not exactly old, but perhaps old enough to have shrugged it off, as well. My son got it and was sick for a few days with a fever. Doctor said it was swine flu, but i got a little sick for a day or two. I hope it was, so I can stop worrying about it.

jinx · 11-06-2009, 04:34 PM

The girl had a fever for a day, I felt crappy and tired for about a week.... didn't keep me from doing anything except working out for a few days. We didn't bother going to the doctor to get a "it's probably" diagnosis because who cares.

skysidhe · 11-08-2009, 06:39 PM

I am glad it wasn't bad but mild (reg )flu symptoms seems to be the norm.

The only person I know who has gotten really sick is the only person I know who received the swine flu vaccine.

Another good swine flu fact sheet.
http://www.yourspine.com/Chiropracti...nd%20Kill.aspx

classicman · 11-09-2009, 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skysidhe

The only person I know who has gotten really sick is the only person I know who received the swine flu vaccine.

I know a couple of those and have heard about a bunch at the local middle & high schools. So much for prevention. (knocks on wood)

xoxoxoBruce · 11-09-2009, 11:02 AM

People that get the shot, let there guard down, engage in more risky behavior?

Shawnee123 · 11-09-2009, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

People that get the shot, let there guard down, engage in more risky behavior?

Like having sex with swine? :p

classicman · 11-09-2009, 03:29 PM

only in o-HI-o

skysidhe · 11-09-2009, 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

People that get the shot, let there guard down, engage in more risky behavior?

One small step for shot recipients one giant leap for bruce.

( teasing )

hey are you trying to stir the conversational pot?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shawnee123

Like having sex with swine? :p

Quote:

Originally Posted by classicman

only in o-HI-o

oh ouch.

jinx · 12-24-2009, 10:15 AM

Doctors query ability of Tamiflu to stop severe illness
Review published in British Medical Journal accuses flu drug manufacturer Roche of withholding evidence from trials

Quote:

"Governments around the world have spent billions of pounds on a drug that the scientific community now finds itself unable to judge," said Dr Fiona Godlee, editor of the British Medical Journal

Why?

10-25-2009, 07:55 PM	#182
Juniper I know, right? Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,539	Just a few comments, some merely anecdotal. First, despite the "state of emergency," the fact that I personally know of three families in our school district who were hit with documented H1N1, and the fact that one kid in our district died from H1N1 (along with other health issues that have not been elaborated upon) our school superintendent says that we have only one or two documented cases and therefore don't really have a problem, and despite pressure from the county he refuses to close the schools. Which is OK with me, really. I just wish he'd be more honest about how much of the H1N1 has been diagnosed. Second, my son came down with the flu Thurs. night. Ugh. Took him to the urgent care, hoping to get him tested to see what strain he had, and to get some Tamiflu. Well, they refused to test him - said they had stopped doing the tests - and refused to prescribe Tamiflu, saying they were told to save it for kids with asthma. Phooey. So I took him to the regular doctor the next day. They did the rapid test - which came out negative for any flu, though it was obvious the kid had the flu. Why else would he have a 101 temp, headache, achy legs, and feel like crap? (Strep test was neg.) Doctor said the tests were developed before the H1N1 outbreak so they didn't detect it most of the time anyway. Huh? I wasn't impressed with this doctor. I sure wouldn't want to rely on him for a serious health problem. He didn't advise Tamiflu, but prescribed it after I asked, though he was unsure what the proper dose was and had to go look it up, mumble mumble mumble something about compounding a suspension from mumble mumble . . . no, I didn't like him at all, good thing I do my own 'net research and have a (kinda) clear head. Oh, and he also had a double ear infection, which the urgent care missed; they'd said his ears were fine even though I specifically asked to check them twice. Hm. So we got antibiotics for the ears, too. Got the Tamiflu in what this doc said was exactly the right dose. My son puked once, which could have been the flu, could have been the med - but was fine after that. Thurs. and Fri. were kind of rough for him, but Sat. he felt pretty good, and today was back to his old self. He's going to school tomorrow. Who knows if it was the Tamiflu that helped? I think it did, that's a pretty short convalescence from the flu. Now my hubby is sick too. I guess my daughter will be next. I hope it's the regular flu, because I had a flu shot. I didn't want to get a flu shot, but the doctor talked me into it and I thought, gosh, what if everyone gets sick and I have to take care of them? They sure as hell won't take care of ME. Good thing, huh? I'd never gotten one before and I probably wouldn't have if I wasn't in college and had the luxury to stay home and rest without worrying about missing a quiz or something. My arm was sore for about a week, that's all. That's my little flu story. Fun times. We missed the deadline to turn in the H1N1 permission slip for school - they're doing it at the kids' school sometime next week, I think. May be just as well, because I haven't made up my mind about it. Last edited by Juniper; 10-25-2009 at 08:08 PM.

10-26-2009, 02:25 PM	#183
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	We did just have a 3 1/2 year old healthy girl die from a flu a week and a half ago. The news reports stated it would be weeks before we know if it was H1N1. As a precaution they did shut her pre-school and disinfect it for a week. Sounds like a lot of people are getting sick with some flu strain. It will interesting to know if they can still get it twice with each strain. Makes good sense that this would happen. __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

11-06-2009, 04:34 PM	#188
jinx Come on, cat. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: general vicinity of Philadelphia area Posts: 7,013	The girl had a fever for a day, I felt crappy and tired for about a week.... didn't keep me from doing anything except working out for a few days. We didn't bother going to the doctor to get a "it's probably" diagnosis because who cares. __________________ Crying won't help you, praying won't do you no good.

11-09-2009, 11:02 AM	#191
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	People that get the shot, let there guard down, engage in more risky behavior? __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

11-09-2009, 03:29 PM	#193
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	only in o-HI-o __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

10-26-2009, 07:06 PM	#184
musikbox10 Guest Posts: n/a	One of our local high schools has 25% of it's student body with confirmed H1N1 cases. It hasn't hit my kids elementary school yet (knock knock), but it's only a matter of time I guess since many of the kids there have older sibs at the HS. Pretty scary. My son was home sick today (not the flu) and when I talked to another mother she said there were only eleven of twenty seven kids in attendance in his class. A classmate of my kindergartner was out for two weeks with scarlet fever. I feel like we're in the hot spot for all the bugs! I have washed my hands so much they are shriveled up!

11-05-2009, 10:14 PM	#186
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	J's daughter is flu-bound. They didn't test her but the doc believes it's H1N1, based on what he's seen in the public. If it's what I had, I shrugged it off in short order. We both started out coughing up lungs, her fever is far worse than mine. H1N1 is supposed to be less incapacitating in the older crowd because we have built up defenses over the years.

11-06-2009, 04:19 PM	#187
kerosene Touring the facilities Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The plains of Colorado Posts: 3,476	I am not exactly old, but perhaps old enough to have shrugged it off, as well. My son got it and was sick for a few days with a fever. Doctor said it was swine flu, but i got a little sick for a day or two. I hope it was, so I can stop worrying about it.

11-08-2009, 06:39 PM	#189
skysidhe ~~Life is either a daring adventure or nothing.~~ Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 6,828	I am glad it wasn't bad but mild (reg )flu symptoms seems to be the norm. The only person I know who has gotten really sick is the only person I know who received the swine flu vaccine. Another good swine flu fact sheet. http://www.yourspine.com/Chiropracti...nd%20Kill.aspx

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